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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

If they can't manage to trick the stupids into supporting Medicare cuts, then tricking them into killing themselves with dangerous medical misinformation is another way to reduce government spending.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Ah yes. The 80’s coke heads in charge of things. Think they know better.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

What an absolute fucking retarded thing to say for insulin dependent people

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They're all fucking weirdos and idiots if I had a shop I couldn't trust any if this lot to work the till alone. If they where poor they would have all died by now.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

Fascist could also try a bullet salad.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (10 children)

To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

[–] nelly_man@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's no need to be fair here. Insulin is absolutely essential for diabetics, and the head of the FDA trying to proclaim that cooking classes are a viable alternative is nonsense. For type 1 diabetics, no amount of healthy eating is going to get their body to produce insulin. For type 2 diabetics, it is possible to eventually get to a point where you can be stable without insulin, but not for everybody and not right away. Insulin treatment is the only way to survive with diabetes for an extended period of time, and the focus needs to be on ensuring that insulin is both affordable and accessible.

Yes, there are things to improve in our food supply, but don't let that distract from how egregiously insane his comments are about diabetes.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This is the truth, right here.

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

To be fair

Well there's your problem. Never hand it to fascists (or grifters, or cult leaders, etc. — basically any kind of bad faith actors).

You do know there are different types of diabetes, right? And a lot of different things that can lead to diabetes?

Some people do get there, in part, due to poor diet, but not everyone.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 131 points 3 days ago (5 children)

A good rule of thumb whenever I hear anything about what this administration does in regards to health I try to look at it through the lens of eugenics. They want to get rid of the people they consider "weak" and think that using money to help those that need it to be a waste of money. People with autism, weak immune systems, chronic illnesses, poor people, drug addicts, and pretty much anyone else they consider undesirable and less than human. Also, they consider our tax money as their personal bank account as if the country was a company and our taxes are their profits. Pretty fucked up, but it makes more sense than trying to rationalize clearly irrational behavior.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Weird. The only thing I can think is that we should string these motherfuckers up asap.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but it’s good to know how we got here

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[–] gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well that would weed all the diabetics out of the American gene pool in just a few days. I'm not sure diabetics are the real problem though.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are just telling states that they're not going to subsidize medical care anymore. It's part of the push to do the *reverse *of nationalized medical care. This will be followed by a "yuuuge" new plan to pump federal funding into medical insurance companies.

This is corporate oligarchy everyone. It means you're not a citizen worthy of living unless you're profitable

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope that California decides to withhold taxes from the federal government, and institutes universal healthcare. Maybe the blue states can have a compact to form a universal healthcare medical network between them?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That would basically be secession. It doesn't sound like Newsom wants to secede, if anything he seems to want to "play ball" with the administration. Our states are still deeply tied to each other and the federal government, a lot of the talk that's been going around about what states can and cannot do is misinformation designed to make us think we're not actually a "united" states. It's more attempts to sow disconnection from community and to promote radical individualism. United fronts can do a LOT of harm to a government trying to get away with nefarious shit.

What will be more likely in the near-term future is states that have money and surplus will subsidize their own healthcare options. Which California already does to a large degree. But they may have to step it up as their citizens lose federally funded benefits.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 20 points 2 days ago

Considering that the GOP wants to kill SNAP, it is pretty clear that RFK wants his hands bloodied.

This guy, like the rest of that lot, are butchers of the innocent and trusting.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People will die because of these fuck holes.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Try not being so fat, you fucking fatties" is a reaction I have heard from people who are themselves overweight. It's genuinely maddening to see how many Americans are sold on the most superficial understanding of "healthy" as "fuckable" rather than "capable and resilient".

So much of the Trump attitude towards health seems to be geared towards eugenics against old ugly poors.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That’s what’s stupid too is most of the eugenics are directed at things eugenics don’t even “fix” - it doesn’t matter how well bred you are you will get old and we already have plenty of hot and smart poor people, lots of them even have college educations beyond that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Killing people is a core tenet of the Republican party.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Isn't that not how diabetes works?

I'm an idiot about biology anything, let alone food and drugs, but I know that.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There are several types of diabetes. It's a disease that keeps your body from turning sugar into energy or fat so it floats around in your blood corroding your organs and fine blood vessels, and can outright kill you with shock if too much sugar builds up in your blood. (very simplified.)

Type 2 is the most common, this where you don't produce enough insulin, the chemical that turns your sugar into power or fat storage. You have to both take care with your diet and constantly monitor your blood sugar, and you have to often take insulin daily to balance it. Some people have reversed type-2 with very rigorous diets and exercise, and some people at risk can avoid it altogether by keeping blood sugar low throughout their life, but if you have a predisposition to type-2, you may end up with the disease for life even if you do everything right.

Type 1 is where you body produces NO insulin of your own. Totally broken. This was typically a fairly certain and swift death-sentence before insulin was developed. People with type-1 are not people who have dietary problems or bad habits, they have organ failure which can be caused by a variety of things, usually genetics or other diseases.

These diseases effect all ages and all walks of life. Beware the next wave of propaganda that will depict diabetes sufferers as some kind of slobs who can't take care of themselve and it's their own fault for being sick. This is already how many people see diabetes. It doesn't help with the fascist goals that often people of color and non-white ethnicities and poor people are particularly susceptible to diabetes.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Another complication that often gets left out is that there's even a type of diabetes that has nothing to do with insulin or blood sugar, but vasopressin. It's far more rare, but people with that won't be helped with diet either, so it's worth a mention.

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[–] lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ahh yes, the starvation diet is back on the menu for type 1's, boys!

I recall back in the day the longest anyone lived on the starvation diet before insulin developed was a year or 2.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

People are too tired and overworked to cook. Poor people are far more likely to spend too much time commuting to work too.

And their suggestion only addresses one type of diabetes. There’s a whole other type of diabetes.

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[–] Nagrom@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

So many factors involved in controlling A1C. Not just your diet but lifestyle, exercise, access to health care and healthy inexpensive food.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way? This is an effort to kill anyone who isn't young and fit.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Yeah, I’d say yes. It's a primer and warning shot. They’ll roll it out in phases.

It gets a reaction out of us. And not always a logical one. A lot of people’s gut instinct is just to deny whatever “they” say. That does two things:

First, it gets their base thinking and talking about how many T2 diabetics are supposedly just consequences of lifestyle.

Second, it pushes the left into reflexively denying that even though it’s partly true. So now, when any real conversation comes up, there’s already a schism. And they can use that to sneak more garbage through, stuff that benefits them and their friends.

Can we head them off at the pass?

No. Never.

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[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Challenge Accepted.

Simpsons TV show still where Lisa is holding a book seemingly titled “How to cook humans”

We’ll get insurers and Medicaid to fully cover diabetes supplies in no time.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Is he suggesting that the US is going to fund free cooking classes that are low in fat and sugar? Because that's a great idea.

And they should also provide free insulin.

Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 15 points 3 days ago

They're not going to fund anything. Nothing is free.

It's a great idea, and they'll just talk about it while killing the presently funded programs, then do nothing.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Holy fuck, these people are so stupid.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This isn't just stupidity, it's social murder.

Conservatives hate you and they want you dead. It's not incompetence, It's pure malice.

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Syringes for me, but not for thee.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

You know, during ww2 when Britain enact very harsh rationing the rate of diabetes and heart disease did drop greatly. Because many fatty staples and meat were hard to come by and sugar was nearly nonexistent.

But you know what was instrumental in increasing life expectancy by almost 10 years almost overnight? The NHS after the war. Even when rationing fully ended in the late 50s life expectancy continued to be much higher despite all the previously hard to get stuff becoming readily available again.

[–] Bot@sub.community 5 points 2 days ago

Cute, little Trump

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Hey Marty! Every legal resident in the USA should have the same health insurance as you, dumbfuck. That would solve a lot of problems in 3rd World USA.

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

TIL the head of the FDA has the inability to take half a second and google the word diabetes.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

No! Stop acting like they're all stupid, that's what they want you to think.

He was a pancreatic surgeon at Johns Hopkins. It's literally impossible for him to not be familiar with diabetes unless he has experienced serve memory loss recently.

He's pushing eugenics and wanting to kill off people with chronic illnesses

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

His blood sugar is high! Quickly!

drags his comatose body to the nearest cooking class

There we go!

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