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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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"TheFutureIsDesigned" bluechecks thusly:

You: takes 2 hours to read 1 book

Me: take 2 minutes to think of precisely the information I need, write a well-structured query, tell my agent AI to distribute it to the 17 models I've selected to help me with research, who then traverse approximately 1 million books, extract 17 different versions of the information I'm looking for, which my overseer agent then reviews, eliminates duplicate points, highlights purely conflicting ones for my review, and creates a 3-level summary.

And then I drink coffee for 58 minutes.

We are not the same.

For bonus points:

I want to live in the world of Hyperion, Ringworld, Foundation, and Dune.

You know, Dune.

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

It's been ages since I read Hyperion but I think it's one of those settings that start out somewhat utopian but as the story progresses you are meant to realize they are deeply fucked.

Also I had to look up Camp of the Saints, and I think complaining about living there may be a racist dog whistle.

edit: So apparently it really is a huge racist shibboleth, which makes me wonder if it's common for grok to recommend it and nobody noticed because it's kind of obscure.

[–] grumpybozo@toad.social 4 points 20 hours ago

@Architeuthis @sneerclub Referencing Camp of the Saints at all is a racist dog whistle.

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 15 points 1 day ago

"The Camp of the Saints is a 1973 French dystopian fiction novel by author and explorer Jean Raspail. A speculative fictional account, it depicts the destruction of Western civilization through Third World mass immigration to France and the Western world."

More of a train whistle than a dog whistle this one.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No may be about it, Camp of the Saints is only ever mentioned by big racists these days. Might as well be the Turner Diaries.

I live how he put The Gulag Archipelago in there along a bunch of speculative fiction.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 1 points 2 hours ago

solzhenitsyn is pretty sus too, with all that him being orthodox fundamentalist, fan of tsar, panslavic antisemite, 2000s putin fan (died three days into russian invasion of georgia), proponent of enlargement of russia to include "sufficiently russified" parts of belarus, ukraine and kazakhstan and therefore opponent of ukranian independence; also

Solzhenitsyn made a speaking tour after Francisco Franco's death, and "told liberals not to push too hard for changes because Spain had more freedoms now than the Soviet Union had ever known."

In 1983 he met Margaret Thatcher and told her "the German army could have liberated the Soviet Union from Communism but Hitler was stupid and did not use this weapon"

Regarding Ukraine he wrote “All the talk of a separate Ukrainian people existing since something like the ninth century and possessing its own non-Russian language is recently invented falsehood” and "we all sprang from precious Kiev".

Solzhenitsyn was a supporter of the Vietnam War and referred to the Paris Peace Accords as 'shortsighted' and a 'hasty capitulation'.

Solzhenitsyn was critical of NATO's eastward expansion towards Russia's borders and described the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia as "cruel" [...] Solzhenitsyn accused NATO of trying to bring Russia under its control; he stated that this was visible because of its "ideological support for the 'colour revolutions' and the paradoxical forcing of North Atlantic interests on Central Asia"

(all from wikipedia entry on him)

it's a little wonder that american altright embraced his writings

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago

The Gulag Archipelago is the dystopian future after (((Those People))) successfully destroy Western civilisation by flooding it with gay Muslims, of course.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

spoiler for hyperionIn the first book it is revealed that the utopian hegemonic force is actually hypercolonialist, which destroyed one of the main characters planets (and killed the dolphins) and made him turn to terrorism. The later books make everything worse.