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Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities
(caitlinjohnstone.com.au)
this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2025
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It's not really the religion though, basically all religions come with a set of believes in what is wrong and right and the hate-spewing war criminals will say it has to do with their religion, but they do not follow the believes set out by their religion. They are only using religion as a tool to gain power over the people that do follow the believes of that religion.
You're right, of course. The real problem, as you pointed out, is religious states.
See also: the way the US has become increasingly brazen about its atrocities as the Evangelicals have sunk their tentacles deeper and deeper into our political system.
On the other hand, there have been Jewish states before modern Israel, and it always ended in tears. Maybe believing that you're God's chosen people inevitably causes you to act with an arrogance and belief in your own invincibilty that eventually causes your country to be destroyed. If you believe God literally wants you to have a piece of dirt, why practice good diplomacy and have good relations with your neighbors? Your only concern is keeping God happy. In the Old Testament, the Israelites suffered invasion only when they somehow let God down. With that as your cultural foundation, what does that do to your nation's foreign policy?
Part of me really is starting to wonder if giving folks who think they're God's special chosen people was a terrible mistake.
what theocracies of any religion haven't "ended in tears"?
I think you missed a word or two there.
I'd suggest the mistake was giving people a country which was already occupied by other people. Whatever myth gets used to justify it, be it god's chosen people or manifest destiny.
“It’s not really the religion…”
Explains how it is, in fact, religion.
Imperialism, supermasism and ressource controls.
Perhaps learn to read.
It’s people that are the problem. People with their shitty attitudes.
Religion is not the problem.
Potato potato.
It’s really not.
I disagree.
I respect that. It saddens me though.
The atrocities committed by people under the flag of every religion there is saddens me, though.
The urss was not religious it was atheist they still killed 1.5 millions afghani
Yeah, people are shitty, religion doesn’t fix that.
If you want to critisize religion go for it, create posts about it. Don't come here making it look like the conflict is all about religion. It's about one state occupying another. Ben gurion the first prime minister was secular he still killed and oppressed palestinians. Most zionists use the argument of ancestral right not religious right. Just because palestinians are generally religious don't mean you can't support the right for freedom
@rumimevlevi The whole 'ancestral right' argument is self-serving hooey, even though many people believe it (though I often wonder how much). The Levant is the first place our prehistoric ancestors came through after leaving Africa 60-70 kya, and have been living there -- and fighting over it -- ever since. Semitic peoples came along perhaps 50 ky later. It's ludicrous for anyone alive now or even in the last 5 ky to claim any ancestral right to that area.
I completely agree with you. I'm just saying that the biggest issue in the conflict and Israel occupation of Palestine is not simply religious extremism. I heard more people using the ancestry argument than the religious argument
How are they different to the atrocities committed without religion being involved?
The false righteousness and a cult of accepting it as good or being ostracized, otherwise it’s the exact same, because religion doesn't improve things, it only gives a false sense of justification to commit attrocity.
“Accepting it as good or being ostracised”
This is just wrong.