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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 167 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I still cannot believe how wrong I was about John Fetterman.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 108 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He was different before his stroke. There are multiple studies that correlate frontal and midline lesions in the brain with right-wing authoritarianism.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2020.0137

https://www.ibroneuroscience.org/article/S0306-4522(25)00304-5/fulltext

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I guess but I feel like supporting Gaza genocide isn’t something you just stroke into.

[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know enough about Fetterman's past to make a judgement on how his stroke affected him, but you totally could. Brain damage can fundamentally change who you are as a person on every level, from memory to logic, or even spirituality. It can change or entirely destroy your ability to feel empathy, damping some emotions while amping up others. Strokes that fundamentally change personality like that are rare, but certainly not outside the realm of possibility.

[–] Phunter@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There's a famous case of a guy who got a railroad spike blown through his frontal lobe and he basically became a huge asshole.

[–] Wimopy@feddit.uk 16 points 2 weeks ago

Phineas Gage if anyone wants to look the case up. Classic psychology and neurology tale.

Of course this happened before modern scientific standards and procedures were mainstream, so take everything with a grain of salt.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's so famous in fact that it's frequently heavily exaggerated and distorted via telephone game from people who've never even minimally researched this case but decide to cite it for this claim anyway.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually, that’s kinda what these neuroscientists are finding happens.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any evidence of it ever having the opposite effect?

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

That tends to happen with books, but wisely applying their contents to the dome.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Strokes can break your brain and fundamentally change your personality and values. Idk if that actually happened here or if he was always actually a piece of shit. It doesn't matter ultimately. He's a shithead now.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there like the opposite of a stroke someone can have that can make them a better person?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

True, ego death does wonders to a person's perspective. But it does not make the base parts work better.

But it does make me wonder how much evil would actually exist, if all humans were healthy.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Psychedelics can help you make connections that you would otherwise not have made, which I would consider to be better brain function, but it’s an inexact science (mostly because it’s hard to get funding to study psychedelics), so in practice they don’t always do that.

I’m of the opinion that humans would not be evil if they were healthy and educated about the consequences of their actions.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think that you just need a certain ability in order to be a functional human being.

If you chugged lead, then...well. You will simply be antisocial.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

I say this as someone with a lot of experience diagnosing and treating strokes....

You'd be surprised how cruel and violent some people can become after them.

I've seen the sweetest little grandma turn into a full on support for genocide nazi after one. More than once.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, they're all having one while slurping up that Faux trooth.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 54 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

In our hate for Dr Oz, we accidentally raised up a separate monster.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 54 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Turns out both options were horrible monsters. As is tradition.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sometimes the lesser evil is still really evil.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago

And still lesser.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans still thinking they can primary themselves out of this situation is hilarious to me.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Still? We haven’t tried in 40 years.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

BOoOoOOoTThH sSSsSsSsiiiIIidESSsssSS

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, I thought he was the best option during the primary, that was definitely wrong. And not everything can be blamed on the stroke.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

yeah now we have fetterman and oz is still in government.

[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

You and me both sister

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

the alternative wouldve been MEMHET oz, but oz is in a position to do more harm than fetterman right now, it was a lose lose situation.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All we ever see on our ballots is two evils to pick from.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

hence lose lose situation. fetterman was more like a turncoat after his encounter with AIPAC. HE WAS ALWAYS pos BEFORE. stroke+aipac unmaks his true colors.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Brain damage causes conservatism

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

He started with a 180, and now I'm so dizzy I feel like Alice in Wonderland.