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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I cant speak for anyone else, and I have a quite simplistic view of the world, but you know when someone has an operation to cut a cancer out, and the doctor looks fucking grim when they say they couldn't get it all?

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure - in your example, they cut out as much of it as they could, then lamented the fact that they couldn't get it all. I think your analogy is supporting my argument that I'd rather cut out as much of it as possible rather than decline to operate at all.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I always took it as the bit they couldnt get is super bad, like they couldnt get it because its in absolutely vital body parts.

Im not a doctor or anything, just from tropes on TV. Its never "we couldnt get it all but it'll be fine, we got most of it." Its always "we couldnt get it all - how much time do i have doc?"

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

While I agree that, in this case, the bit we 'couldn't get' is super bad, even in your analogy they still remove everything they can. It sounds like your argument essentially boils down to, "We can't get the worst pedophiles, so we'll let the not-so-bad ones off."

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not letting them off, just as soon as some are sacrificed, whoever is left gets a free pass as the matter is officially over. You can cry about it all you want and protest and bitch that it wasn't what you wanted, but its over, and the news cycle moves on, and you missed your chance.

Sure, getting some sounds better than getting none, but when its clearly being used as a political weapon involving one of the most powerful positions on the planet, it suddenly gets a little worrying.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago

That's a fine argument... I guess the question is whether the news and the anger will continue to hold up for the next three and a half years until we (hopefully) have the chance to get someone in office who will actually release the files unredacted. I don't believe for a second that Trump will. If the choice was between getting some of them now or all of them later, I'd take the latter, of course, but if the choice is between getting some of them now or none of them ever, I'd prefer the former.