Right-wing streamer says Trump should release Epstein files, and "if he's on the list, just take it off" : nottheonion

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 18 points 1 month ago

How people can still watch that shitstain asmongold is beyond me. Truly a deplorable human being.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't this the jerkoff who was shitting in the corner of his room and knew it was time to get up when the sun hit the poop and made it smell?

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The poop in this case was a dead rat. But yes, Like and subscribe for more pro-life tips from a guy famous for playing Vidyogame

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just “redact” Donald’s name. 😉

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

That's how they got to "there is no list..." deleting Donald and his buddies.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

This is how these people think reality works.

There is no objective means to evaluate facts. Claims are moves in a word-game played between tribes. Nothing else exists in their moral universe.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Ok so he's okay with Trump being a pedophile?

[+] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Obviously I'd like the whole unredacted list to be released, but honestly, if the choice is between nothing getting released, or a list with Trump redacted from it being released, I'd take the redacted version. In fact, I don't care if only the democrat politicians are left on it, I'd still take "a few pedophiles being outed" over "no pedophiles being outed".

Not saying this would be good, but the list getting released is about more than just sticking it to Trump, and it'd be better than nothing at all.

Edit: All these downvotes and nobody actually explaining why. Is it only about sticking it to Trump for you? I assume not, so why not make your case?

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I cant speak for anyone else, and I have a quite simplistic view of the world, but you know when someone has an operation to cut a cancer out, and the doctor looks fucking grim when they say they couldn't get it all?

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure - in your example, they cut out as much of it as they could, then lamented the fact that they couldn't get it all. I think your analogy is supporting my argument that I'd rather cut out as much of it as possible rather than decline to operate at all.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I always took it as the bit they couldnt get is super bad, like they couldnt get it because its in absolutely vital body parts.

Im not a doctor or anything, just from tropes on TV. Its never "we couldnt get it all but it'll be fine, we got most of it." Its always "we couldnt get it all - how much time do i have doc?"

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

While I agree that, in this case, the bit we 'couldn't get' is super bad, even in your analogy they still remove everything they can. It sounds like your argument essentially boils down to, "We can't get the worst pedophiles, so we'll let the not-so-bad ones off."

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not letting them off, just as soon as some are sacrificed, whoever is left gets a free pass as the matter is officially over. You can cry about it all you want and protest and bitch that it wasn't what you wanted, but its over, and the news cycle moves on, and you missed your chance.

Sure, getting some sounds better than getting none, but when its clearly being used as a political weapon involving one of the most powerful positions on the planet, it suddenly gets a little worrying.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago

That's a fine argument... I guess the question is whether the news and the anger will continue to hold up for the next three and a half years until we (hopefully) have the chance to get someone in office who will actually release the files unredacted. I don't believe for a second that Trump will. If the choice was between getting some of them now or all of them later, I'd take the latter, of course, but if the choice is between getting some of them now or none of them ever, I'd prefer the former.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If the whole thing isn't released, Mossad will continue to have the USA by the nuts.

Why do you think we are here? Its fucking mossad.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago

I don't follow, can you elaborate? How is having most of the list released worse than having none of the list released as it relates to Mossad?

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is some big "The jews control the world" bs. Big yikes.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is very well documented that Epstein had deep ties to Israeli intelligence and they have directly blackmailed sitting US presidents before.

Sorry, but as a Jew, this is nothing like the conspiracies of the morons with space lasers and other bullshit

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly. No need to make this into an antisemitic thing. Not what I meant at all. People need to quit equating israel's fascist government with the Jewish religion. That's exactly what they want so you can't criticize them without being called antisemitic.

I'm against the us government being controlled by foreign powers. Trying to make my statement into something else is just bad faith.

[–] aow@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is, but it also echoes the general view in that space. The right wing POV is that Epstein's operation was coordinated or maintained by Mossad in order to compromise politicians. It's possible, but obviously without any proof. Just saying all of this because you have to engage with people where they are if you want to make changes.

[–] moody 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The right wing POV is that Epstein’s operation was coordinated or maintained by Mossad in order to compromise politicians

I mean even if that were the case, it doesn't change the fact that anyone on that list is a horrible person.

[–] aow@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

True that. Hoping things do blow up and it gets released.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure how its a right wing POV when we have evidence his de-facto father in law was literally a mossad agent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell?wprov=sfla1

[–] aow@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's absolutely a potential link there between him and Mossad, but believing the Israeli intelligence wing was facilitating child rape is definitely not main stream. That view fits snugly into the usual antisemitic conspiracies of Jewish global control that are fairly popular with the alt right.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Fair point.

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