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[โ€“] Redex68@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I find it interesting how every post I see on Lemmy about Fairphone always has half of the comments complaining about the lack of a head home jack, but in real life I don't know a single person that really laments it's removal. All the people I personally know are fine with Bluetooth headphones. This is just such a loud minority, it's impressive. I know that there is overlap between people that want a headphone jack and people that want a repairable phone, but still, I feel it's way over-represented in the comments.

[โ€“] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

You have been visited by the USB-C port. This post is now protected against headphone jack jihadists

[โ€“] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Give me a phone with two USB-C ports so I don't need a dongle when I wire up to my USB-C headphones and battery bank

[โ€“] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Wonder if this problem will be "solved" with Qi2 (magnetic charging) in the future. Pixel 10 is supposed to have it if we're talking Android. Otherwise with 2 USB-C ports you have Lenovo Legion 2 Pro and Lenovo Legion Y90 but that's not mainstream

[โ€“] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They largely brought that on themselves. I mean obviously they did by removing the jack, but I think moreso by claiming to be better than the rest of the industry - and charging a premium for that difference.

When Samsung removed the jack it was annoying, and also very hypocritical as they had made fun of Apple for that just a year before, but it was to be expected from a corporation like that. These guys promised they weren't like that, and then did the same thing.

You can imagine it like this: if you see an ad by a pop star trying to sell you some bullshit product that doesn't work you'd think "that's shitty" and move on. But if you saw the same ad, but instead of the plain old pop star it was the members of Rage Against the Machine, you'd notice that a lot more. Everything they had done before would ring hollow, and every time someone would bring them up you'd remember that they're just posers looking to make a buck off of a demographic.

And that's how I feel about this phone. Just posing as something better.

[โ€“] Redex68@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

I can see that, that's a fair point, but I don't think it's malicious from their standpoint. I just think that when you look at their sales, they really are trying to cut down costs as much as possible while retaining their main goals of being a repairable phone with ethical materials, because in the end, if they're not profitable, they won't be making phones anymore, and then you won't have a company making repairable or ethical phones at all. Headphone jacks are a relatively easy thing to remove because realistically, very few people use them nowadays. There is a vocal minority that wants them but they really are just a minority, and catering to every single niche for a company as small as them isn't realistic.

[โ€“] kepix@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

cause you live in a part of the world, that has already gave up. including yourself.

[โ€“] Redex68@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I didn't give up anything? What do I have to give up? The user experience is objectively way better with wireless earbuds. You don't have to care about a cable being tugged around, battery life is a non-issue for me. I've never ran out of battery on my headphones and modern connectivity is pretty good, I've never had them fail to connect or anything like that. The only people that have any sort of benefit from wired headphones are audiophiles, that I can assure you 95% of people are not. They will not notice a difference between the headphone jack and wireless earbuds. Even if you gave me a headphone jack, I wouldn't use it. I just do not have a reason to use one. I've been using wireless Wi-Fi headsets for my PC for a long while now, I don't even use a headphone jack on my PC. It's just way more convenient having wireless headsets.

You don't really know the meaning of objective do you?

Look at the thread for "objective" reasons people want the jack.