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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
[–] mlen@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They need debugging tools specifically designed for AI-generated solutions.

What the hell does that even mean, lmao?

Focus on AI tool literacy: Developers using AI tools daily show 88% favorability compared to 64% for weekly users. This suggests proper training and integration strategies significantly impact outcomes.

What kind of drugs are they on

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

Second quote is classic "you must be prompting it wrong". No, it can't be that people which find a tool less useful will be using it less often.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What the hell does that even mean, lmao?

Feel like people are just reaching for things 'clearly we need tools to help us with the process, so lets just call them debuggers for AI'

[–] mlen@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

So the normal debuggers that we have for ages, right?

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

but can you grift using these?

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

AI innovation in this space usually means automatically adding stuff to the model's context.

It probably started meaning the (failed) build output got added in every iteration, but it's entirely possible to feed the LLM debugger data from a runtime crash and hope something usable happens.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago

I assume these 'ai debuggers' are for looking inside the AI black box when they AI goes 'yes I'm very sorry I will not do it again' before doing it again.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't posted yet in lemmy, did search. Yours was the only thing I found. So, I posted it in programming to rile people

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I did a search for "stack overflow" and found zero results so think search was a bit buggy atm. Votes also not showing atm for example. Not sure if by design.

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this might be a federation breakage, or the queue catching up

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

Sorry searched only locally forgot to mention that, but pretty quickly after the server came back up