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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There’s a reason the NDP performed dismally in the polls. Some of that was an aversion to PP but they must own and learn from their own poor choices.

I am hoping to see another orange rally in my lifetime. I was very disappointed in the Trudeau years.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is their shot. Bring in a strong leader and come out of the gate swinging HARD. Scream about social services, keeping what we have, recently gained, and will get if they win. If they can't pull it off next election the Cons will probably take it, and there may not be a Canada left to rally for.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's also our chance because we can affect who the new leader would be.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good point. I've never been a member of a political party but I might join the NDP this year to vote on the leader. You just made me remember that one of the drivers, in my opinion, of the big Liberal comeback was media coverage of new memberships.

If the NDP gets a swath of new memberships it could go a long way to showing Canadians that the NDP could have a real chance.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Yup and you don't have to limit yourself. If there's an important leadership election, register and vote. Then cancel your membership if you don't suport that party in general. Many of us voted in the LPC leadership election but we're not "LPC voters." And we're now gonna vote in the NDP one. I really hope we can get the party in a competitive state for the next election because while Carney is not PP, he's so far going down the Kier Starmer road and if he continues, the next election could be CPC vs NDP.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Might anger some with this opinion but:

NDP removed socialism references from party constitution and are now tripling down on identity politics. They're never the top pick when it comes to "anybody but conservative" and never will be if they can't handle dropping their popularity poison. Or at least pretend to. They're not wrong, but they're trying to get elected by a mass of people who aren't very smart or kind. Their PR is ass and they should've been buying off mass media like cons. High road is obviously a dogshit tactic.

Hell they can still do identity politics (not against to be clear, just a realist), just don't mention during election cycles and try to keep dialogue about it minimal when media asks about it. Not like lying by omission or doing the opposite of what is claimed on the campaign trail stops the other fucking parties. I'm down for playing dirty.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed - it's all about what they lead with. Focus on policies that benefit the middle class. Make those the centerpiece. Keep a strong equality game, but make sure people think of them as "the party for average Canadians."

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Middle class is a myth, use the term working class.