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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
Dingdingdingdingding.
Here's the winner, right here. Fascist fucks want to go around pretending that only billy clubs and bullets and bombs count as "violence." Inflicting mass starvation on people, withholding medical care, stealing workers' wages they depend upon to survive, and brutalizing minorities and marginalized groups (oftentimes with actual up front physical attacks) is "just doing business."
So news flash to the chucklefucks: That's not how it works. State sponsored violence is still violence, and so it follows the oppressed have a right to defend themselves. It sure sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, don't it?
But it turns out there's an easy way to defend yourself from that sort of thing. All you have to do is not be an evil and hateful fuck whose policies and actions threaten the lives of others and their right to exist.
@surph_ninja @jballs How exactly did Charlie Kirk "terrorize" anyone? It was just words, dude! Dramatic much? Charlie Kirk engaged in dialogue. He welcomed conversation, even when he disagreed. He was killed because he called out the lunacy of our culture.
I feel like I am living in the story of The Emperors New Clothes and the people who actually call out the stupidity are being made fun of...and killed now. You need to get a grip on reality.
He created a literal hitlist of professors, and convinced people that violence against trans people was a moral imperative.
@surph_ninja a hitlist? He may have named people he felt were contributing to the rot of this nation, but you show me proof that he ever called for a hit or for people to do anything more than speak against the issues.
Read the testimonials of the experiences of people he put on his Professor Watchlist.
@surph_ninja The purpose of https://www.professorwatchlist.org/ was simply to "expose and document college professors who discriminate against conservative students and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom." You have no proof that he ever pushed followers to do anything vile or hateful to those professors.
Even if his followers did, that doesn't mean he condoned it. Show us proof. Less talk, more evidence. #lies #propaganda #turningpointusa #charliekirk
Nah. He’s dead now. He won’t hurt anyone again. No need to prove it anymore, now that the trash has been taken out. Good riddance.
@surph_ninja What kind of a person makes unqualified accusations against a dead man without providing any proof? And then we asked about evidence, dismisses the need to validate claims against someone’s character?
You are a bitter, hateful person and from what I see you are much closer to the type of person you claim Charlie was than he has ever been. I pity you. I honestly feel bad for you.
You’re a white supremacist. Your kind is a disease on this planet.
@surph_ninja LOL. Since you don't know me, you have no idea how absurd that statement is. All you know is that I am white. If that is your idea of a white supremacist, then God help us all.
Resorting to name-calling doesn't support your case. I would like to say it has been a pleasure chatting, but that would be dishonest. I truly wish you were up the challenge of a real conversation.
The real disease on this planet is something called sin. I am definitely part of the problem. We all are.
If you defend Nazis, you’re a Nazi. If you defend white supremacists, you’re a white supremacist. Pretty simple.
@surph_ninja You can label me and anybody else whatever you want. When you don't provide any justification for your slander other than anecdotes and regurgitation of propaganda...
Nevermind, this conversation thread is boring me now. I might as well be talking to my toaster oven. God bless. #uncivildiscourse #timewasted #propaganda #Godhelpus
I haven’t. You labeled yourself a white supremacist by association.
@surph_ninja The reality is that I love you as a human and an image-bearer of the Creator, God. I don't know you, but I know who made you. You and I are both imperfect people in a fallen world. Genesis 1:27-28 says God made us in His image. He made us male and female. Two distinct sexes. Two legitimate genders.
Romans 1:27 and verses in Leviticus speak to the abomination of homosexuality.
Because I believe the Bible I speak against these sinful acts...Not due to hate. Love != approval. #truth
Seriously, he's words and actions have probably resulted in the deaths of others, why shouldn't he have gotten this outcome?
The Republicans’ rubber stamp, and lack of a competent opposition, is proving to be an absolute nightmare for the party. They’re getting away with everything they ever wanted, and people are seeing the immediate consequences play out. When your policies start killing people, people literally fight back. You’ve given people nothing to lose, and this population is armed to the teeth. What did they think was going to happen?
You can’t declare war on a population, and then expect to walk freely in the open air among that population.
The Republicans getting everything they ever wanted will be what caused the party’s destruction. The Democrats helping them do it will destroy them, too.
True, but let's not pretend this is some natural result of fucking around like with climate change. This is a result that will have to be affected through actions of individuals. There will be people doing "bad" things for good reasons. Things that need to be done to create that downfall.
It will not be pretty and the perpetraitors will not be treated well by the media. It will have the potential to spark a proper civil war, (as if one's not already here) and it will be ugly. We must be prepared for bad news and prepare our relatives to not fall for the blatant lies that will be reported as fact (as if that hasn't been happening since time immemorial).
There was a way around this that would have resulted in no deaths. Trump should been prosecuted for the January 6th insurrection. Then we should have put a bunch of fascists in jail for a long time. Then we should have de-platformed grifters.
But none of that happens so. We get what we get.
It comes across to me as they simply lack empathy for other "kinds" of people. If you actually felt the same pain and empathy when watching the video of Kirk get merked, you should feel that a thousand times over when seeing a thousand videos of the IOF massacring children, many sniped in the same way Kirk got merked, and then you should look upon Kirk in disgust for supporting that and dehumanizing the Palestinian people. But the fact is these people don't. They don't see other "kinds" of people different from them as in fact "people." Let's be real, they don't feel the same kind of empathy for Palestinian fathers dying as they do a white fascist dying. They constantly mock the deaths of minority groups like trans people. They suddenly have empathy and demand pacifism and valuing the sanctity of all life when a white fascist dies, but are silent in every other case.
Well said. Claiming he simply died for his political beliefs is highly reductive and disingenuous.
If you're part of a movement that's taking vaccines away from babies, well, you're evil and people are going to respond to that.
His family shouldn't expect empathy, and he wouldn't want his death to distract from full Epstein file disclosure.
Charlie Kirk wouldn't have wanted you to feel any empathy for him or his family.
"I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term that — it does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics"
I expect the NRA will stage a gunshow at a nearby site someplace in the next few days, right? Its what they do for school shootings and this was at a school. So Kirk's fam can stock up on cheap ammo.
Assuming his kids are young enough, I'd feel bad for them. They probably don't understand well enough.
His wife though I don't care for at all, and will likely use his death for profit and to make her kids extremists. One can only hope they question why their father was hated enough to be killed while most people everyday aren't.
It's bad to kill for political beliefs only if a fascist dies. Otherwise nobody will even know about anything.