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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 229 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

His last words

He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied "Too many"

He was corrected, the number is 5.

He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700)

He asked back: "Counting or not counting gang violence?" and got shot

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 153 points 2 days ago (4 children)

His last word was "violence".

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

This is the best use of this meme I’ve ever seen, bar none.

Make Fascists Afraid Again.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And isn't it poetic?
Don't you think?

It's like rain on that assholes birthday
It's a free ride when they've already paid
It's the gun shot that you just took to the neck And who would've thought? It figures

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

If some historian a hundred years from now or whatever wants to say this moment represented a real turning point, please don't

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A sniper with an innate sense of comedic timing?

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe he was waiting for Chuck to say a number. But chuck was too slippery. One last owning of the libs, right before he was triggered. At least you know he died doing that thing where he opens his mouth and just kind of shows his gums with glee

[–] Klear@quokk.au 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm guessing shooting at any other point would produce similar results.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, nearly every sentence he uttered could have ended with a bang. 💥

He was like a fascist Wile E Coyote.

If violence isn’t working, you’re not using enough violence.

shot; dies

Narrator:

the violence worked.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 93 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I always said "You can tell when Charlie Kirk is arguing in bad faith by when his lips are moving and sounds are coming out."

And it was literally the last thing he ever did.

[–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 63 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lying for money. I hope he saved enough for his family

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel bad for his kids, actually.

They’ll likely be raised to think their father was a martyr, so the poor things (like 1 and 3 years) will probably grow up in the alt-right-o-sphere where their dad was a martyr to the cause.

That’s very sad. They’ll likely won’t have had a chance.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I do too... But I wouldn't say they don't stand a chance

Their dad got shot while encouraging gun violence. That might instill some strong opinions in them

The kind of strong opinions that will likely be buried and come out later in therapy

But it could go either way

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Depends. I expect his wife is just as alt-right-addled as he was, which might mean she’ll raise them to be little Nazis. I guess they might break out of that, and I hope so, but being raised alt-right with a prominent martyr to the cause as your father could seriously fuck you up. Don’t forget they’re very rich, so they’re insulated from the real world.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I mean you might be right, but I imagine the martyr thing could go either way

Just putting myself in their shoes, it probably won't feel nice having their dad constantly praised for doing what they saw him die doing

Plus, Charlie Kirk was more hated than loved. There's no putting them so deep in a bubble that they aren't confronted with that fact

Kids tend to either follow or reject their parents beliefs... I'm not sure what this kind of trauma does to that, but I'll bet it'll make it more extreme

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

For their sake, I hope you’re right.

e: and, putting myself in their shoes as a child whose father was both prominent and absent (though not dead), I idolised him well into my 30s. Raising a teen boy finally disabused me of his sainthood. He’s still the most remarkable man I’ve ever met, but he’s also fallible.
If he’d been dead, I may never have been forced to accept he’s human.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I do unironically feel bad for his kids, even if they may grow up better without him they still watched their dad get ganked in public. Note they were with him at the time.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I did not know that... That sucks

And I wasn't being ironic either. I hope his ill gotten gains are enough for his kids to be ok... The damage he did collecting it will never equal what he squirreled away, but hopefully it at least is enough for his kids to grow up with food and therapists

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

That's my take as well, right now they need comfort food and a highly respected trauma therapist. Maybe keep them away from crowds for awhile as well, who knows what issues will start to manifest in the coming days/weeks/months/years.

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[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (8 children)

“Gang violence” = racist dog whistle. The assassin couldn’t have picked a more perfect time to fire. 😂

[–] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean ideally it would've been at his time of birth

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Okay, second-best time. 😂

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

He was engaging in hate-mongering right until the end. Just like the Nazi propagandists of the WW2 era, he was spreading a message of a demonized minority group being responsible for countless crimes and social ills. He ran literally the exact same playbook against trans people as the Nazis did against Jews.

I have no more sympathy for him than the Nazi propagandists we hanged at Nuremberg. They're guilty of the exact same crimes against humanity.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 38 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn't count for some reason?

I guess we'll never know.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago

It's a common talking point among the right that there aren't really that many mass shootings in America if you exclude gang violence. Y'know, which is done by and only effects those people

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 42 points 2 days ago

Pointing out that gangs do a lot of violence is an attempt to shift blame onto the demographic groups which are overrepresented in gangs due to socioeconomic reasons (systemic racism).

[–] abir_v@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Given who he was, probably the latter as a to-him socially acceptable racist dog whistle.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Using one minority as a scapegoat for gun violence wasn't working, so he was switching to a different minority.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's a deflection technique. The intention was to not answer or address the question at all, but to shift to another topic he could more easily use to manipulate his audience. If you've ever watched him "debate" he was a master of deflection.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

he was a master of deflection.

With words, maybe. With lead, evidently not.

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[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

As others mentioned, "gang violence" is generally a euphemism for non white, especially poor, people. I used to listen to Knowledge Fight(stopped after election not because of the boys, but didn't want to hear Jones gloat) and during several shootings that involved black victims Jones dismissed it as gang violence.

One case I recall was a shooting in a school in GA that he was spinning some other way, until he found out the school was primarily black and the victim (who survived iirc) was black. He then just stated the kid was in a gang with no proof and dismissed the story.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Just some good old racism

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[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Reality displayed an immaculate sense of poetic justice today.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seriously? We’re living in a movie.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago

It gets dumber...there was a school shooting today, 3 kids dead, 1 state over from this.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Does anyone have video of this? (This conversation, not the shooty part) All the news media are quoting this while referring to a video but not showing it.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I watched the close up video and didn’t find it traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine, not to mention the children being shot in schools

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I had the same experience. It's regrettable how desensitized to violence I am these days.

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[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're /very/ intertwined. I don't recommend looking for it unless you want trauma

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, like less than a second after he says violence is a sudden and absurd amount of gore

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