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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 1 week ago (6 children)

just had a silly idea: stopping your torrent right as it starts to seed (to avoid ISP letters) is like pulling out as a form of birth control

[–] Arnl@lemmy.zip 68 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, but you still seed while you download

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meta's legal defense was that they limited seeding to a minimal value as a precaution when they pirated terabytes of books. Of course, I don't expect the same ruling would be granted to an individual... Shit is fucked.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So they downloaded it all to train their models and didn't even seed back!?

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Yes, beacuse that would be distribution of copyrighted materials...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

How do I delete someone else's comment?

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Has the law in any jurisdiction determined that sharing some small fraction of bits is equivalent to sharing an entire series of bits? And how do they determine that? Like I’m sending 1s and 0s right now. Is that a violation?

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, at that point everything is legal if we pretend to just send "random" 0s and 1s

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But there must be some kind of burden of proof, right? If I leech 0.001% of a file, have I really pirated that file? If yes, then how small does the amount go? If no, then how large does it go? Or if they have to prove intent, well then that can go to trial…

[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago

The law is whatever the judge says it is. You could have undeniable proof of your innocence and still get convicted.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago

In the piratebay trial, just announcing the hashes was bad enough for a conviction

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

I mean, that's kind of what encrypted traffic looks like to anyone without the private key

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Did a little digging around. It looks like they manage to get discovery judgments all the time over partial downloads, but I don't see them actually taking anyone to court for anything less than a full file.

Once you have the entire file available, it's hard to shimmy around the distribution claims. Wouldn't it be super effing interesting if everyone's torrent client specifically picked a random block and refused to give it to anyone?

I'm not sure it would hold up in court, but it would be interesting.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Coitus interruptus

One of the few latin expression I memorized, because that's how the Catholic Church calls it since that's their recommended "contraception" method, all of which I find hilarious.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That’s… not how it works. A law firm rep (usually) just has to connect to the swarm and see what IPs are there. It matters not if you share, being in the swarm is enough for them to send your ISP a notice of infringement. So as others said, use protection.