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[–] yamamoon 2 points 16 hours ago

It'd be nice if we can have some kind of standard for torrents so we don't have a bunch of duplicates on our system.

For something like games, it just doesn't make sense to have the torrent and the install. It takes up so much space.

Portable installs are always best.

[–] Priyathium@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I did that.

And rightfully so, I was a 15 year old in a third world country with a beat up compaq computer to download movies overnight. I couldn't seed cuz my father would find out I wasted the internet.

Today, I can seed and have a 26TB hard drive, I preserve old movies in my native language (Telugu) and seed them.

Do we need people to learn about seeding and ratios? Definitely. But I believe in

Today's leechers are tomorrow's seeders.

And don't blame them.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Sounds like you grew up and your hardware did too!

Not everyone is able to seed unfortunately. Here the downloading aspect although not allowed seeding is when you can receive fines.

Hence I cross seed everything to I2P.

Of course only Linux ISOs 😉

I leech because i have a 1mbps upload speed and if i'm uploading using that then my download speeds tank rendering my connection useless.

I'm moving in the next year and when i get a place with more than ADSL you bet i'm setting up a seedbox

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the second it says "Seeding"

Don't worry, it will stall at 99.9% forever

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate how relatable this is.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Recheck torrent Recheck torrent Recheck torrent Recheck torrent Recheck torrent Recheck torrent Recheck torrent Recheck torrent Recheck torrent

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

god i even hate pausing seeding for even an hour cause i'm like BUT WHAT IF SOMEONE WANTS IT???

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[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 135 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Trying to keep a public torrent alive is hard work, but someone has to do it.
Back when I had VDSL and even ADSL, I'd try to hit 1.1 ratio because if everyone did that the risk of information being lost would be close to 0%. Nowadays with gigabit internet, all that prevents me from seeding is hard drive space, and 8 TB doesn't fill up quickly with how few good movies and series there are these days. I guess that's one way to stop piracy, just make fewer and worse series/movies.

[–] SanctimoniousApe 81 points 2 days ago (13 children)

"Good" is in the eye of the beholder. Have you considered that the quality hasn't changed much, but instead you've become more discerning as you age? I certainly have far less tolerance for the stupid shit I used to think was funny long ago.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I get that. I used to think The Big Bang Theory was funny
*shudder*

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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 2 days ago (12 children)

just had a silly idea: stopping your torrent right as it starts to seed (to avoid ISP letters) is like pulling out as a form of birth control

[–] Arnl@lemmy.zip 67 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, but you still seed while you download

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meta's legal defense was that they limited seeding to a minimal value as a precaution when they pirated terabytes of books. Of course, I don't expect the same ruling would be granted to an individual... Shit is fucked.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So they downloaded it all to train their models and didn't even seed back!?

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Yes, beacuse that would be distribution of copyrighted materials...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

JFC people, use protection

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 67 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Personally I enjoy seeing the numbers go up. Looking at the current top ten by ratio according to my torrent client most of them are obscure things that I'm probably the only one seeding — but the number one spot, at a ratio of 565, goes to "Shrek (2001) [1080p]".

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[–] Johanno@feddit.org 59 points 2 days ago (23 children)

I have now a ratio of 9.1 and 250TB of uploaded....

Also my hard drive is getting full. I guess I have to clean up some torrents soon.

Or buy new storage

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[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Isn't that what streamio effectively does?

[–] mogranja@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Question: does a debrid server avoid that? Do debrid providers seed?

[–] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My understanding is that debrid servers do not seed, which is the primary reason I've been turned off to the idea of using one

[–] mogranja@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 day ago

Hmm. Good to know. Though at least they only download once for multiple people

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Yep. And that's why I hate those users. Damn leeches

[–] arararagi@ani.social 11 points 2 days ago

I do think this is the real issue, these programs like Kodi and stremio do exactly that.

[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would seed if people ever used me. I only have so much space, and everytime I try to seed, there's either nobody downloading, or theirs a hundred other seeders.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago

I seed EVERYTHING until i run out of space. Qbitorrent doesn't like me having .torrent files in more than one drive, so i'm limited to my 14TB. But i have dozens of torrents that i'm only one of 2 or 3 people seeding it, so those help me upload hundreds of GB's with my terrible connection.

Also i'm on a private tracker, so leaving them seeding helps your ratio, even if you don't actually upload anything. They just try to encourage new people to seed and that is awesome.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I used to seed everything religiously. Then I joined some private trackers, and suddenly I felt like I needed to conserve all that upload bandwidth for torrents on private trackers. Humans kinda suck. I still seed plenty, tho:

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No one wants my seed.

[–] GuardYaGrill@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Maybe one day ProtonVPN will fix their port-forwarding for their configuration files, I haven’t seen anyone else complain about this and their support is oblivious that this function even exists.

For people wondering the Learn More link just tells you what port forwarding does.

[–] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Try taking a look at the way glueten implements port forwarding with protonvpn. Hopefully it helps you piece together a script that works for your setup.

https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun/discussions/2686

https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun-wiki/blob/main/setup/advanced/vpn-port-forwarding.md

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Unfortunately my VPN provider doesn't support Port Forwarding (they're great in everything else, but suck on this) so if I just start seeding from scratch no peers will ever manage to connect to my machine. The only way I can contribute back to the community is when a Download session ends and starts seeding (basically all those peers that my machine checked during the download stage get recorded in the VPN's Router NAT as associated with my machine so if they try to connect to my machine later, for example to download a block, they get through), so my torrents are just left to seed after downloading (if I stop it and start seeding later, it might not work anymore depending on how long has passed).

Fortunatelly I have a fast internet connection and torrenting is done in a server machine, so I just leave it setup to a 2:1 seeding ratio for as long as it takes to get there and pretty much all torrents I download reach that seeding ratio (it pretty much only fails to reach that on really obscure torrents with very small swarms).

I've been sailing the high seas for over 3 decades and long ago saw the importance of doing my bit to keep the whole ecosystem alive.

So I might not be seeding everything I have (and as it's been 3 decades, I do have some stuff which is now very obscure), but everything I get from the community I seed 2x as much so that others can get it too.

[–] Arcka@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does your ISP not give your router a public (even if dynamic) IP? If not, then after your router you'd be double-natted right? Yuck!

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My ISP does give my router a public IP.

However my VPN provider does not give my client machines public IPs and instead gives them internal IPs.

So from any machine in my home, my normal (via ISP) connection is via my own router (which does NAT for all machines in my home network and which I fully control) which has a public IP address on its external interface (so, no double NAT), whilst a VPN connection is via the VPN provider's router (as that's what's on the other end of the VPN pipe) which also does NAT, but that router I don't control and the VPN provider I use doesn't allow Port Forwarding hence all the trickery I described above to make sure I actually seed more than I download.

Around here ISPs giving internal addresses is not very common unless it's on a mobile connection.

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 29 points 2 days ago (9 children)

People should learn how to seed. If you don't want to seed, just pay for Usenet.

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