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Suprisingly, both of them are on the same side of the barricade.
magats are not patriots.
Patriots love their country and criticize it when its wrong.
Nationalists create a fantasy narrative of what their concept of a "country" is, and think that's the best thing in the world.
I probably fit into the category of "patriot", I love the multiculturalism of the US, I love the progress that has been made on Civil Rights and the protection of people with disabilities and recognition of the rights of LGBT+ people, I love the constitution (well... some parts need to be tweaked), the 1st and 2nd amendments, separation of powers, the idea that "American" is not a race, but an ideal; And I do recognize that the history is dark and those dark history should be taught so we can prevent those from happening, and I do NOT support this administration's blatant violation of the constitution and anyone involved should be thrown in jail.
These "nationalists" don't even love the country, they do not support freedom, they are traitors, and should be dealt with accordingly.
This line turned on a light bulb deep in the recesses of my brain that were formed while being raised by rural conservatives.
In my conservative world at least, punching down was pretty much universal, not just a political thing. You don't criticize your parents/betters or honestly even disagree with them many times, but you can expect criticism of your own every move. Generational trauma isn't a single event, after all.
Or, if you're lucky, the parent is the type to sweep everything under the rug and pretend that everything is perfect.
So with those kinds of traits plus the very hierarchical thinking, you can see how you simply do not criticize your people in charge, your religion, etc.
But that's only for YOUR people. If somebody is an OTHER then that means they are nowhere on your hierarchy (the correct one, obvs) and are therefore worth less than the lowest peon on your side.
Soooooo, that was a long way of saying these people probably THINK they love their country because they treat it with the same honor, deference, and "see no evil" that they give their own grandmother.
They are. That's the dirty truth of the Post-Cold War state of the nation. What we're getting a taste of is authentic Real Americana.
All the flowery liberal hagiographies of noble, selfless liberty lovers was propaganda. Trump is the beating heart of American oligarchy. And the oligarchs have had this country by the throat since the day settlers put boots on the soil of the New World.
The "freedom" this country promises is a lie. It's the old Auschwitz line. "Work shall set you free". Horseshit. These people want to work you into your grave.
You are getting a taste of long running russian media manipulation, enabled by rich oligarchs who care more about their power and money than country.
A russian literally wrote the book on how to take down the country.
And this shit thats happening right now is literally what was written in it.
You're not seeing anything authentically americana from the right. You are seeing gullible idiots manipulated by outside forces to destroy the very ground they stand on out from under themselves, and do it while praising a country that they and their predecessors hated and vilified as the great communist evil.
Sorry bro, but the calls are coming from inside the house.
Which Russian, the one that says gay atheists take down the country or the one that says gay Jews take down the country?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Russia pushes every angle. The point is to spread division.
FTFY
"Israel pushes every angle. The point is to spread division."
FTFY
You are getting a taste of long running Israel media manipulation, enabled by rich oligarchs who care more about their power and money than country.
Depends on how you define "patriot". If it is strictly nationalism, then yeah. If you define "patriot" as someone who loves, in this context, democracy and human dignity, then I would disagree.
I've never known the term "patriot" to not be soley a nationalist dog-whistle... unless we're talking about beers on Family Guy
To me, a patriot always been someone who is willing to sacrifice of themselves to make the country better for everyone else. Whether that means sacrificing their life in battle, giving up significant wealth, or using their talents to help those in need.
MAGA is all about grievance, and what the country should be doing to service them. They are nationalists and identitarians, not patriots.
I always thought nationalists are fed a sense of pride (through indoctrination, propaganda, belittling of other nations) in their country, and patriots just develop their pride organically because the country they live in is great at taking care of their people (and even those who are from other nations).
Those are nationalists, not patriots. They love tyrants.