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Can someone explain to me
The bodycam footage looks like everyone was having a good time. So, I'd consider it the duty of police officers to enable everyone to continue having a good time. Asking a band director to cut off a song when there's no emergency is completely ridiculous.
The cop probably wanted to get home so he could beat his wife.
Simple, the cops job is absolutely not to enable everyone to continue having a good time. Their job is to protect capital and the ruling class, usually with impunity. Unfortunately that sort of power corrupts, and this cop probably had somewhere to go and wanted to hurry things up (with impunity)
Police were at the stadium because they were likely required to be. Very often if you have a large gathering you are required to have Police present, often paying for it. It's largely a racket to get officers easy overtime.
Since posting that, I thought about it myself. Over here in Germany, we have similar laws, but it's specifically securities, not police. The massive difference being that those securities don't have guns.
And yeah, that was basically my thinking. Why would you send people with guns to such an event? It just causes everyone to feel uneasy. And unarmed securities can break apart brawls much more aggressively.
...but yeah, I forgot that everyone and their mother has a gun in the US. Unarmed securities would be on a suicide mission. So, yeah, I do understand now, why police is present...
It's not really about guns. They are already illegal on school property and large event venues. Unarmed security is also common in the US, but it's growing to require police specifically.
Probably nothing. They may have just been there working security. It’s certainly very easy to assume they were just power tripping- because let’s be honest, ACAB.
But, it could also have been a bomb threat, active shooter threat or something to that effect.
Which might end with people not having a very good time.
Well, if there was an emergency, I'd have expected them to at least drop the word "emergency" when talking to the band director. That would have side-stepped that whole discussion of how, when and why the band should stop playing.
And then, yeah, them focussing entirely on the arrest rather than actually clearing the stadium when the band did stop, doesn't speak in their favor either.
Me too. I’m assuming the cops are (yet again) assholes.
That said, they could have been wanting people out with out making too big of a scene. (With such threats, sometimes the panic is worse than the threat. Also, the person making it- it’s legitimate- could go active if they make it obviously an emergency.)
Yeah I was scratching my head at this one. Cop had better have a really good reason here because otherwise, have fun getting Section 1983'd. I am not sure qualified immunity would apply against the right to peacefully assemble, unless either there was reasonably a threat of danger, or some legal authority made the assembly or its actions illegal (e.g. no one allowed on school campuses after 9pm, a citywide noise ordinance on weekdays, etc).