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[video] Cargo trams (not trucks) should be how we move goods in our cities
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Have you ever been in a city? Practically every street has stores that need deliveries. Does every street get a tram track?
I think a good use would be to go from an industrial area to another, or to a cargo hub.
That is apparently what this tram did, although normally heavy rail would fill this role.
Use trams to get goods to neighbourhoods, then distribute from there.
whatever is convenient, for short distances (shops right next to where the tram stops) you can probably just straight up use the same pallet trucks used to unload it (they're really quite speedy and flexible), for longer distances cargo bikes.
Mmh in my experience actually not. Very distinct streets in the centre are shopping streets (with residential on the higher floors). Many neighbourhoods are just residential.
Trains to distribution center, pneumatic tubes from distribution center to every home and business.
I want my green steampunk future cities.
https://www.zermatt.ch/en/sustainability/Elektros-Autofrei-Anreise/Zermatt-is-car-free
while you could argue the specialized electric buses and delivery vans are "Cars" they cannot drive on normal roads and do not produce pollution, in terms of emissions or noise, like regular cars. It's more than possible to build a car free city, its been done before.
I believe the tracks for the long distance trains should go to warehouse or distributions whatever then cargo bikes would deliver them locally.
Have you ever seen how much stuff your typical courier has in their van?
Counterpoint: https://youtu.be/R63DdEe_8aM
I love how that clip has multiple shots of trucks absolutely full of boxes, while making the case for a vehicle that could fit inside the truck as it's replacement.
I think you just missed the point entirely. You don't actually have to load up as many items in a cargo bike, because it's inherent advantages in urban contexts more than makes up for its inability to load up as many items.
What does that mean, exactly? What inherent advantages?
They are spelled out clearly in the video:
If I own a grocery, it's going to take a hell of a lot of bike trips to and from the warehouse to restock every day. Or I could employ an army of bikers. Or one truck.
Ok, so deliver food via truck. Choose the appropriate means of transportation for each type of last-mile delivery. The 200 gram Amazon package most certainly does not require a heavy truck to deliver.
One thousand stops within a five mile radius means that you're definitely going to make it out ahead with bike delivery. So yes, the bikes would very obviously come out ahead in this scenario.
It seems I missed the point. I had deliveries in mind where the truck is mostly empty most of the time. Restocking with a truck or cargo tram (depending on the environment) would make more sense.
The answer should be yes. In fact we should dig up the bicycle lanes to make way for tram tracks.
A tram to every driveway please. I want my own tram
This is actually how americans think transit should work.
I want this globally, I want to drive my tram from Albuquerque to Amsterdam
Or maybe make deliveries on cargo bikes.