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I really don't understand the reason of such a bitter and disrespectful response to a politely posed question. Shouldn't leftists be more tolerant than their right wing counterpart? Or maybe people are starting to be so ill-tempered just because they are systematically losing all elections in Europe and US?
I read his comments and judged him based on how he choose to present himself. I think thats a pretty fair way to make assumptions about a person, based on their words. I responded accordingly and advised him that if he didn't feel he fit in that category he may want to reconsider how he identify his beliefs.
Also, learn about the tolerance paradox and you'll understand why the left are currently so strongly against the right. Also, the left is making great gains in the US, the right is the side losing seats.
Ze only sing ve do not tolerate is intolerance!
If the left wants to be intolerant of a given group, that's a fine, debatable position to have. In that case, however, it's intellectually dishonest to refer to such a position as "tolerant."
If "tolerance" tolerates intolerance, then who decides what is "tolerance" and "intolerance?"
Just admit who you don't like and whose rights you want suppressed. Clearly the left has a problem with certain groups of people or they wouldn't be beating up demonstrators of opposing ideals in an unprovoked manner.
I thought the US Democratic party was “far right”?
I don't know if you're trying to make a joke about something, but Republicans are far right, democrats are left of center.
I'm referencing the mantra that gets repeated a lot by Lemmy leftists that both parties in the USA are far right and Republicans are just slightly more far right.
Just slightly?
The tolerance paradox applies to a purely theoretical situation, not to modern society where people have constitutional rights. All radicalisms are equally flawed and, personally, I prefer to deal with the "originals" rather than with spoiled youngsters who are pathetically trying to emulate the "tough" adults.
Well, I am a gray haired Gen X-er and fuck conservative fearmongering evil exploitative shit. The radical left youths warm my heart.
That's a lot of words to say you want fascists in society.
No,I don't want them. But they are there, though...
You let burglers into your house just because they're in your yard?
No, but if the police can't do enough, I install an alarm and defend my personal space. I don't want to arrest all potential thieves beforehand because they have "thievous" opinions. I don't want to argue online, anyway: your nested comment (with a parent that has gone down the list due to pagination) made me found a bug in a Lemmy client that I'm developing so I am really grateful to you 😂 Thanks 🙏
I have no thanks for you. But I'm not surprised there are mistakes in your work as well as your logic
Admitting one's own mistake is a sign of intelligence.
Making too many is an indication of its absence
You're sure you know it all and have an answer for everything. Good for you, go ahead like this in life and you will succeed.
It's called critical thinking, try it sometime!
Critical thinking implies the ability to understand other people's point of view, learn from your own and other's mistakes, discern what if good and what is bad in the other person's reasoning and in one's own. Not believing like a bigot that since it's written in the Bible or in any other book it is a form of revealed truth.
Are you criticizing your own side now?
I don't necessarily want fascists to be in society, but they should have a right to be there as long as they're not actively hurting others.
Their ideology is based on hurting other people. How do you not get that? They cant exist peacefully.
If you're ok with them being here, don't be mad when I lump you in with them.
If they actively hurt other people, then they should obviously be punished. How does my comment imply otherwise?
Their core belief is that they are better and should have autonomy over other people, how does that NOT turn violent?
Again, if they do turn violent, then you can punish them. What's hard to understand about that?
So wait til they start killing people openly before we identify their ideology as dangerous?
We're done here and you're blocked. Either you have no place in this conversation or you're being intentionally obtuse.
You illustrate my point. Whether or not an ideology is dangerous is besides the point.
That's how the left exercises "tolerance" towards those of opposing views. Again, you illustrate my point.
Do you wait for a pedo to rape a child before doing something? NO! Someone is clearly fascist/pedo/nazi/racist/sexist/bigot they need to gtfo.
Pedophilia is a mental illness that one doesn't choose to have. Pedophiles who haven't molested a child deserve mental help, not to be ostracized.
There's a difference between thinking of something and doing it. Many leftists dream of punching conservatives in the face but only a few of them actually do. The ones who refrained do not rate punishment from the government over a thoughtcrime.
The issue with the tolerance paradox is it gives way to thuggery once those with the most power decide what their idea of "tolerance" will and will not actually tolerate. That's why we have a Bill of Rights. Call it intolerant, but name something that actually tolerates more (not just "progressive" or anarchist vlaues).
You don’t have to tolerate intolerance.
No, you don't, but at that point you are no longer truly "tolerant."
Conservatives attempted to overthrow my country on 1/6/21. Why do they deserve respect after that? A reasonable, moral person would see that and choose to stop being conservative.
You mean that a few drunk people with guns are representative of a half of the country?
No, we mean your worthless-ass party. It was fun to watch a bunch of then surrender in Atlanta again though.
They are absolutely represtative of your party. They were led by your leader, your party wants them pardoned. You probably also believe some combination of them being both patriots AND a false flag.
You're all idiots, and they represent you well.
What “my” party? I don't live in the USA.