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[-] squiblet@kbin.social 48 points 11 months ago

3000 people sounds a bit excessive.

[-] Dettweiler42@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

I've noticed a lot of media outlets like to add a zero here and there when reporting.
A mix of 300 people could fill the IKEA parking lot. 3000 is an entire cruise ship.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

You piqued my interest so I went to look it up. Average Ikea is 300k sf. So obviously omitting the fact that there are areas of the store that are off limits (although are you following those rules when you're playing hide and seek?), as well as there being furniture everywhere, that's 100 square feet per person, which I think is doable. Especially considering, if I'm playing hide and seek at IKEA, I'm hiding in the furniture.

[-] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

”if I’m playing hide and seek at IKEA, I’m hiding in the furniture”

You just showed your best hand. I can’t protect you now.

[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

That would be a 10x10 foot square for each person, that building would be pretty crowded once you take the shelves and merchandise into account.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Plus a lot of that is employee-only warehouse space.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

I wonder what the fire department's max occupancy is?

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Probably not more than 150 or 200, but their building isn't important, right now.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Ha, yes. Okay, to be properly specific, the occupancy limit the fire department set for that Ikea building.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So occupancy is, firstly, based off classification. An IKEA would presumably be M under the UCC (Uniform Construction Code). Capacity is determined using the amount of exits and distance to those exits. You can have a million square foot building, but if there's only one door, you're going to be limited to 50 peoples. That'll obviously never happen, but just an example.

Mercantile can range from as few as 30sf per person to as many as 300 sf per person. Assuming this Ikea is on ground level, has a bunch of doors, I think you can safely use 60sf per person (10x6 area), which would allow for about a bajillion people in a 300k square foot IKEA.

That load is kind of in the middle. There are uses that require greater separation distances, like hospitals and other institutional uses, and then some that require less. I threw out 100sf per person, because 10x10 is honestly a bunch of room for your average person. I think you could reasonably do some cartwheels in a 10x10, and to me the cartwheel is a great demonstration of personal space. If you can cartwheel, you're good to go. What more do you want?

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Interesting, thanks. Much of it is warehouse space that isn't open to customers, though. Not sure what proportion the shopping floor would be - 2/3? Plus the products on the showfloors take up a great deal of room.

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