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Darth Vader vs Wolverine [deliberatelyburied]
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Vader has The Force, but Wolverine can recover from whatever injuries he gets. Vader has been removed from battle by serious wounds at least 3 times so far.
Do lightsabers cut adamantium?
Is there a known material* that lightsabers don't cut? Serious question.
*Beyond that time ~~Kylo~~ Emo Ren had a hissy and attacked a console, that thing should've been way more damaged.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Lightsaber-resistant_materials
I was thinking of the one from Dark Forces, but I guess all of these are non-canon now?
Cortosis.
It's kind of a moot point anyways? I mean, how good do you think they're going to be at parrying under this circumstance? They're both gonna get stabbed in the chest.
Yeah but that will kill Vader and mildly annoy Wolverine.
Vader should Force Push him off a walkway with no handrails, it's his only option.
I think if he used Force Aneurysm that would probably work temporarily but if lightsabers can't cut adamantium it's just delaying the inevitable.
These are the hard hitting debates that bring me back to the Internet every day.
Could they move the nipples separately? If yes, then one nipple blade to block and one to stab?
There is a large amount of discourse on this topic
You know, I was thinking about Superman and Goku the other day...
How about the hulk with a red lantern ring?
Green lantern rings are willpower right? I'd give it to Vegeta with a green lantern ring vs hulk with a red one.
Nah, in canon, it's been shown to be resistant to similar types of coherent energy. It might slightly mar the surface because of the heat, but it wouldn't cut it. And even the heat thing is my giving the light saber properties beyond what's shown in film and in books.
It's always difficult to merge worlds but maybe adamantium is roughly equivalent to beskar or slightly better.
I think wolverine would win in that fight. He's got lots of experience fighting many different enemies varied power including "throw things at him" and can take a ton of damage. In contrast vader will be a bit surprised by the healing abilities, commentary and hidden armor.
That was my initial thought too. But if Vader can stay at a distance and force-choke Wolverine until he's passed out, then Vader could move in after it's safe and basically burn up every ounce of Wolverine's body except for the adamantium using the light saber.
Nah, the heat thing they're shown melting through blast doors. It at least happens pretty early on in Phantom Menace, and pretty sure I saw it happen in some Disney SW somewhere, too.
That's blast doors of an unspecified metal. If it follows the usual SW materials where such things are specified, they wouldn't be exotic materials, they'd be alloys of standard metals on the real periodic table.
That's why I say that I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the light saber. They reach plasma temps, which is hot as hell, but wolvie has taken hits from plasma generated by technology and super powers. If it was a sustained thing, maybe; but a fight doesn't allow for sustained contact.
I mean, obviously,, it would depend on who was in charge of the writing decisions. But us nerds have to guesstimate as best we can. In SW universe there are exotics that can resist the sabers both under short and sustained contact. Adamantium is pretty exotic, and is canon about as close to indestructible as it gets.
Light sabers aren't really meant to be unstoppable, they're not an ultimate weapon. They're a high tech, very effective sword that uses coherent energy that generates high heat on contact. There's limits the what they can do.
It's one of those things where sabers have been written to have limits more often than Adamantium has, so I err on that side of things.
Yea, I just mean light sabers have a heat component to some weird degree. How ever that interacts with Wolverine or his adamantium is indeed a whole other thing. lol
I definitely agree adamantium should be able to stop a light saber whether or not it gets heated by continued blocking. I think at some point, Wolverine wouldn't much like trying to live with a heated skeleton. But I mean, isn't that also how the adamantium got there? Seems like he'd survive extended exposure either way, too.
I'd think so, as far as I'm aware they can cut thru any metal if given enough time. In the movies and TV show the only thing that fully blocks sabers is another plasma/laser type thing.
Enough time is the key phrase here. Adamantium absorbs a goldly amount of energy in the marvel universe, to the point of being literally "unbreakable" in a canon with a fuck ton of different energy blasts/weapons.
Vader aint going to melt it in the span of a hand to hand fight filled with glancing nipple saber blows.
Sans force powers, wolverine takes this.
Good to know, I can now rest easy knowing the most likely outcome of this nipple duel!
Yeah I was surprised how long they took to get through (start to melt) the blast doors in the first prequel.
I mean, Vader could force chuck him out into space.
As far as I know, Wolverine would survive this. He might not be conscious until he reenters an atmosphere conducive to human life, but the Hulk has survived being thrown into space many times.
One could argue that his regenerative healing could make him alive burning the entire time in severe pain until he got back to a habitable planet. Nightmare fuel.