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It's well established that Religious people are immoral and quite typically horrible people.
― Steven Weinberg
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Or patriotism.
Tribalism is basically the problem.
"Quotemining is a rigorous proof" -W.V.O. Quine probably
When did I say anything about proof?
If this is all just a game about writing a string of characters, then why are you complaining about my comment?
If it's not then why are you endorsing a false statement?
Do you really not understand that people can say things which other people can agree with without being able to prove them? What do you want, a morality survey?
I understand it. It's not a logical action. You're not some misunderstood super genius, you're a standard internet poster who blindly accepts and endorses false statements simply because it agrees with your preconceived notions.
I like how this entire time you're arguing for why you posted it (which nobody actually cares about), and not actually defending the statement made.
What are you even talking about now?
You literally forgot that you posted a quote claiming that religion is necessary for immoral actions?
Are you actually so stupid that external parties understand your motivations better than you?
Insulting me does not clarify your previous post, but it does make me uninclined to talk with you further. I have very little interest in incivility.
There is nothing to clarify, especially since you never even specified what confused you.
"It does make me uninclined to talk to you further"
Oh no, what shall I do?
Everything you say confuses me, starting with you having some issue with me pasting a quote. Why do you even give a shit? If you don't like what I post, just block me.
"Why do you even give a shit"
Why did you post it? My reason for posting a criticism is atleast as valid as yours for posting the initial comment. The primary difference is that my clearly satirical fake quote wasn't deliberately conveying a false statement.
"Just block me"
Please people, don't criticise me!
If you announce something to the public, the public can respond back. The world isn't a pulpit to preach from.
It isn't a fake quote.
https://thefederal.com/obituary/steven-weinberg-a-physicist-who-found-religion-an-insult-to-human-dignity/
I didn't even read the rest because that's just a lie.
Why are you even talking to me if you're going to lie and gaslight?
I characterised my statement as a fake quote, you illiterate dolt, "fake" is literally directly after "my " and before "quote". It was satirizing your quote-mining of a clearly false statement, by attributing another clearly false statement to a noted logician and pretending that it was therefore correct, because that's exactly what you did.
Huh. So maybe I'm not the genius you claimed I think I am and actually the idiot I think I am.
Can you imagine? You not being right about me?
Yes, I can imagine. You are probably somewhat self-aware that you are a moron. That's why you commit an appeal to authority fallacy in your initial comment.
But keep on imaging that you can play epistemic games with me.
Somewhat? I literally said I'm an idiot. Where is the somewhat? How much more direct do I have to be?
I have a friend who recently got caught cheating in school. At about 40, I'm headed back as well. The other day I mentioned that I needed to take a math placement test (I haven't taken any math classes in about 2 decades). She said that I should have my husband take them for me.
Guess what she originally majored in...
Christian Theology
Hey I do know a few truly compassionate and empathic religious people. In my own experience they are definitely more of an exception than the norm though.
Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot beg to differ. Even Hitler was irreligious.
Hitler was not really irreligious. Some historians claim he remained a Christian, despite disliking the church. Others claim he was not a Christian in the traditional sense of the word, but did keep some level of reverence for Jesus.
The most commonly held belief it seems is that Hitler was a deist, believing in some god that would protect the German people, though not necessarily the Judeo-Christian god. He did however remain a member of the Catholic church until his suicide.
Regardless of his own beliefs, he did use religion as a tool to further his genocidal plans.
They also had black hair