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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 198 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So drinking a real-world cow's milk is ok, but drinking a Zootopia cow's milk would not be ok because... the Zootopia cow is presumably a full member of society who earns a living by consensually being milked?

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (10 children)

It would be a little strange to eat ice cream from consensually milked women tbh

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well then you definitely don't wanna google that.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK I'll add that to the list of things I'll never google.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

You should live a little and Google it ;)

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why?

If the women are fine with it, get a wage from it and can quit any time they choose to, where is the problem?

And just to add to the pile: humans can lactate without the need for pregnancy - even males - and some women can develop a condition called hyperlactation where the body goes full throttle on producing milk, beyond any needs of an infant. And never stop, in very extreme cases.

Sounds a good deal more sustainable and fair than cows milk and a heck lot more efficient than milking trees.

[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe I'm being cynical but I think humans would find a way to exploit this market and make women suffer, just like we can do with cattle.

Inject women with hormones to make them produce more milk is an example I can think of.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why we need a strong, massive milkers union

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you mean milk producers union?

Because the milkers would be those paying for the milk to resell it.

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No the milkers are the titties, they were trying to be clever.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it was a stretch, I'll let this one pass

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you. Very courteous of you.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I'm talking about some serious mommy milkers

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

No kinky business

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To my knowledge, the use of hormones in milk cattle is banned. And hormones in humans have severe life lasting side effects.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And hormones in humans have severe life lasting side effects.

Not having hormones has pretty severe effects. Women who've gone through menopause (or had ovaries removed) and don't produce hormones often get prescribed hormones to prevent things like osteoporosis. Men with low testosterone get prescribed it. Children who don't produce hormones don't go through puberty--in the past, they castrated boys with pretty voices so they'd never have their voice break, and that had severe health consequences on the boys turned into eunuchs.

I'm saying all of this because when it comes to "hormones", you kinda have to be specific. You can't just throw it out there like, "oOooOO! Hormones! Scary!" Otherwise you get into a realm similar to how people hear "dihydrogen monoxide" and don't make the connection between the "scary science word" and the fact that dihydrogen monoxide is water and is necessary for life.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I really hate the english language...

Back there, when I mention hormones, it is implied it is non necessary for the normal functioning of the organism.

In my language, using the word "hormones" in a conversation immediatly carries the meaning it is something artificially added, like hormone therapy for menopausal women or hormone therapy for transgender individuals or even for people with thyroid problems.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they pay hazard pay and people willingly contribute, what’s the issue?

[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At first glance, none.

But then "willingness" and "money" rarely mix well. Yeah, there are humans "willing" to be paid for their plasma but it's a marginalized part of the population trying to have just enough money to survive.

I'm sorry. I'm trying not to ruin the meme any further.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (17 children)

People donate blood, plasma, sperm and breast milk from all walks of life already. Some get paid too.

If you want it to be about a particular group in can be, but even well off people donate/get money for their bodily fluids.

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[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I once went to an ice cream fair where local women had collected their breast milk to make a breast milk ice cream. It was actually delicious

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I think you just awakened something in me

[–] don@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Strangely, there exist those who would find it to be the furthest thing from strange, jsyk

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So a few years a go, an old friend i was visiting asked if i wanted cream in my coffee. She checked the upstairs fridge, then went downstairs and came back with glass of milk. Halfway through my coffee i started to wonder why she was hiding a grin. Yes, she had a three month old.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

That’s really fucked up to do to someone without telling them

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But from a non consusual women is fine. Gotcha.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not exactly lol I was thinking from a consensually milked livestock but it’s all a little weird sounding isn’t it? Lol

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That’s gonna be a no from me dawg lmao

[–] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Only a little strange?

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[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Your right, we need to start selling breast milk.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Homelander has entered the chat.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We already do that

And in ice cream form as well

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Baby Gaga ice cream seems to have run into legal trouble so I’m not sure if it’s still around but you can look at fansly

The nice thing about the official company is that they tested it

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[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

We already do sell breast milk.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

His right, your left?

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had human breast milk ice cream. it was ok..

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[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's probably not considered weird in their society. Just another job.