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New Zealand repeals world-first smoking ban passed by Jacinda Ardern
(www.independent.co.uk)
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I really do not get why this is the current political climate.
There's a lot of fear and uncertainty in the world. Fear is the basis behind conservatism, as is hate.
People are desperate for change from the status quo. The right offer simple answers for very complex questions. No critical thinking required.
There's a lot of money to be made telling people who are afraid of things new things for them to be afraid of. You could also use it to grab power.
You don't see the irony, do you? This type of propaganda is why smoking was banned in the first place. It works for the left as well as the right. GMOs, gluten, nuclear power.
The difference being that those are naive solutions to complex problems, but correctly identifying the problems. The right has no solutions, only scape goats that block them from some "perfect" past that we've progressed away from. There's no irony here, just a misunderstanding, on your part, of what divides the left and right.
Sure, I get that.
I'm just saying that the impetus can be propaganda on either side. Left gets taken in by propaganda, they want to do something (even banning something is couched as a proactove measure). Right gets taken in by propaganda, they want to stop things (even taking action is couched as a reversion to previous times).
In this case, the right has no solutions while the left has bad solutions. The right doesn't see smoking as a problem, therefore no solutions are required. I agree with the right on this issue.
But the right is wrong as well. There need not be restrictions on who wish to purchase tobacco, that we can agree on, but there do need to be on those who would sell tobacco. Tobacco kills and is addictive, to allow it to be sold without restrictions (on advertising, or the sale to minors) would be a cruelty to those who would've never started smoking with those restrictions in play. Only those who can understand the decision they make, with an adult mind unswayed by propaganda (advertising), should be able to make that choice.
Is anyone arguing for that? If so, it's new to me
The answer is very simple: Propaganda works. Consistently and very predictably. All those arguments we should have had in the 70's about "television" were right, instead, cable and streaming won and here we are in the belly of the beast.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Democracy_Union
There are a bunch of groups such as ^this one and they have a lot of money and influence.
There's no other way to keep the race for the first trillionaire going other than moving towards the right.
Probably because the left doesn't really have a vision to offer, we should be promoting a better future for all and showing how we can achieve it but instead we've got infighting, purity culture, self destructive idealism, and calls for making life harder on regular people in pretty much every way possible.
The vibe I get is that the left usually points at things that need to change and offers solutions to the problems they see.
And the right campaigns on "not that"
Same. I ponder if it’s an echo chamber but then realize I consume such a variety of news…. Sad state of things.
If you've never seen leftwing infighting then you've never been involved in any form of left wing politics lol
Ha yeah that's a horrendously naive perspective, I've been involved in a lot of leftwing movements over the years especially eco and economic reform and I can tell you that if all the infighting comes from outside agents then we should thank the three letters because there would be no movement at all without them.
Are you honestly trying to tell me that you don't think the left has any issues? It's all good honesty lefties working together?
And the others, they're not lefties or Scotsmen, they're agents who must rightly be obliterated... hmm, I think I might have seen this one before 🤔
You said nothing of substance and now you're questioned on it you back away because you know you were just trying to sound tough without really thinking through your position.
The only problem of the left is they are bad at marketing or consider it immoral