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These people seem to think you can just find ammo, fuel, food, etc. lying around, or it can be looted forever, or they'll be able to stockpile enough. Ha!
One, these are very wealthy people who have been accustomed to being served, and having unrestricted space to roam about and enjoy. Stick them in a small bunker with rationed resources for more than 48 hours, and they'll be plotting how to get rid of each other within 6 hours.
Two, resources are finite! Let's say we have a reenactment of the French Revolution. How long do they think the peasants are going to wait for them? The peasants are going to build a town on top of their banker called "FU&FO". Air vents will be blocked or used as toilets, solar panels will be repurposed, and their view will be of a guillotine building yard. Unless they have a small reactor and someone who can maintain it, they'll be living in the dark, eating cold meals, and breathing ever more stale air.
Ammunition and mercenaries? Got news for you, Bezos, there's a whole lot more good ol' boys parked out here, just waiting to return their shipment of whoopass.
When will any of these idiots learn from the past? Read your Sun Tzu. The best defense is to surround yourself with friends.
Here's a full article on Douglas Rushkoff talking about "those" people.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-20/tech-billionaires-are-planning-for-the-apocalypse/101546216
Ok, I've given some thought to surviving in a societal collapse. Nuclear war is simply hopeless and leads to a long, lingering death if you should survive, so let's leave it as societal collapse, like a COVID-27, but 10 times higher mortality.
This assumes you have Money with a capital "M".
Find a piece of land with easy access to a reliable water supply, farmable land, reasonable sunlight, and forest. Preferably, 30–60 minutes from a major popular center, maybe a little more. Build a home using ICF. The windows covered with European rolling steel shutters. Masonry heater. Wood-fired auxiliary water heater. Wood stoves, plural. Solar panels with multi-day battery backup. Greenhouses, barn, workshop. Printed book library in the house. Reloading supplies and equipment. Archery supplies. Medical equipment and education. Food preservation.
Do you want a loyal army? James Bond's Kerim Bey in "From Russia With Love": All my trusted employees are relatives. Become a foster parent. Help your community. Become a major factor in promoting community preservation and support. Become a loved and respected member of the community. Don't go the Godfather route. Surround yourself with people who see you as a factor for good in their lives.
You don't know billionaires very well.
Then die 2 months later when you're raided by your desperate neighbors.
You had them up until the "good person" part.
Much like governments only exist by the consent of the governed, the moneyed elite only exist by consent of the lower classes.
I saw an interview where he talks about this very event. It's fucking pretty bleak.
FWIW his book is well worth the read. I went into it with my usual "this could have been a blog post" assumption but I enjoyed it quite a bit.
What are they going to pay the mercenary armies with? Money? Why would a mercenary accept money when civilization has collapsed? The things they'd want most are the things the rich want them to protect. At that point, what value does the rich person offer the mercenary? Why wouldn't the mercenaries just shoot the rich person and live in the bunker now absent a resident?
That's exactly how i see these scenarios. The rich are just keeping nice properties and resources for the local warlords to usurp when the shit really hits the fan.
Furthermore, how capable are these people to begin with? Are they ready to personally run and oversee a survivalist camp for the rest of their lives? Can they do it themselves? I'm sure there's a couple that would do just fine but i imagine most would quickly exchange hands without the police to protect their properties and assets (hell, they could wind up being the ones taking them)
Why, they'll pay them with genuine 24 carat Alex Jones gold coins!
That's why they're trying to buy the entire island of Lanai.