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I sure hope all porn sites follow Porn Hub’s lead. Just block Texas from viewing porn. Then I hope all broadband and cable TV operators follow suit as well, can’t have transexual cock on VOD or PPV. Let’s see how quickly Texas falls back in line. It won’t happen, but I can dream.
Oh porn will be accessible it'll just be worse.
Yep, I do agree with that part of the statement. The only porn they'll have access to will be completely unregulated and a haven for revenge porn and CP.
Pornhub themselves weren't amazing on that front to begin with, but they made more of an effort than most to try and clean that up due to regulatory pressures.
The kind of sites who won't bother complying with Texas' age verification law because they already hosted all kinds of illegal shit are just going to explode in popularity further entrenching a depraved and violent subset of sexual abusers.
Anyway, I'm glad to see this sentiment echoed on Lemmy. Everywhere else it feels like people are thoughtlessly praising Pornhub and thinking this is a "big win."
So you think that providing your ID to access porn is a good idea?
I think asking for ID online to view porn is practically unenforceable, which is why I'm of the opinion that a site like Pornhub will quickly be replaced by far more disreputable sites who will not follow the rules requiring IDs to view the porn.
Pornhub cutting off Texas just isn't as big of a win as people are making it out to be, imho, simply because its unenforceable and the kind of sites that are willing to ignore it probably have far worse on their sites to begin with. So those kind of sites will see their traffic drastically increase and men consuming porn in Texas will be exposed to far more violent and dangerous content. Pornhub is doing the right thing, sure, but it doesn't mean it's that simple.
Do people really think Texas is going to spend time playing whack-a-mole with every single random porn site on the internet? I don't.
Won't Texas just go to the next step and start forcing the ISPs to ban the sites starting a never ending game of whackamole until they just outright ban all porn at the ISP level with a way to add a site super easily and on demand.
At that point it's VPN only in which case you can access it all anyway
Edit: and of course the blanket isp ban will hit non porn things to, but that's the cost to save the children!
Court time costs money, and in each one of these cases, they'll have to start legal proceedings against every site, and then, if that doesn't work and then they'll have to sue each and every ISP for compliance. Taking it to court is a surefire way for the law to be shot down by the courts. Blocking at that level would undoubtedly run into Freedom of Speech issues.
There are roughly 4 million adult sites on the internet. That's a lot of fucking court cases, especially when a bunch of these aren't even headquartered in the US.
In Texas alone there are over 150 Internet Service Providers. While that's an easier number to target, it's far more likely to run into the 1st Amendment argument that blocking the site is blocking the freedom of speech of the ISP.
The reason they went with age verification was because it doesn't end up in 1st Amendment territory. Outright blocking the sites for non-compliance and taking them to court risks the court throwing out the law and saying its unconstitutional.
Texas can't even keep its power grid on, I have serious doubts they have the ability to achieve either of these things. Asking ISPs to wholesale block sites is about as difficult to enforce as age verification, which is basically unenforceable as it stands.
Yes. I don't explicitly like that you have to be verified to post content but it's very nice to have the default porn site to be much better protected.
Verifying your identity before posting potentially illegal content is a great deterrent against doing so, especially when it's original content.
I do wonder how this kind of thing will mesh with sites that arent for porn but do allow posting of it. Like reddit or for that manner any lemmy instance federated with one of the instances with nsfw subs
If I remember there was a content percentage threshold that would probably keep things like reddit and federated instances allowed, the strictly porn instances however might also have to ban Texas.
Texas AG will likely get to them eventually…
"Why are you stuck in a dishwasher, Step Bro?"
"I thought it was broken but the power grid is just down because it's cold :("
Everything's bigger in Texas, even the botnets.
I'm in North Carolina and the porn has been blocked since New Year's. The hentai websites are the only ones I have access to. (E621 is also blocked).
It's not a NC thing, so I have to ask:
Are you at work or some common access?
Do you have a shared access at home, like parent/roommates/apartment/school?
Some other parental type control in force?
ISPs don't care what you look at, they only get involved with copyright stuff because someone is hassling them to do something about it. Someone has filters at the local point to keep you from getting to places. VPN could help get past, depending on how the filters work. Interestingly I've gotten out with a VPN before when my ISP had my direct connection in suspension.
It's not blocked at layer 4 or anything. The website simply geolocates you and denies application access for users geolocated to NC. VPN gets around it fine.
The bigger issue is that plenty of other sites still allow access... So it's effectively punishing the rule followers.
How Dare They Block E621! Now I have to become an armchair warrior and get mad over something that doesn't affect me in the slightest because I still have access! All while doing nothing about it!
In all honesty, fuck these types of people for blocking sites that try to a degree to try and stop illegal porn on their platforms.
Specifically, e621 has geoip blocking in place. Not ISPs or anyone else
Get yourself a VPN or learn to sail the high seas!
TIL there are people still paying for PPV porn on cable after we invented an entire worldwide network of porn you can access for free.