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U.S., Not Israel, Shot Down Most Iran Drones and Missiles (theintercept.com)

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The United States shot down more drones and missiles than Israel did on Saturday night during Iran’s attack, The Intercept can report.

More than half of Iran’s weapons were destroyed by U.S. aircraft and missiles before they ever reached Israel. In fact, by commanding a multinational air defense operation and scrambling American fighter jets, this was a U.S. military triumph.

The extent of the U.S. military operation is unbeknownst to the American public, but the Pentagon coordinated a multination, regionwide defense extending from northern Iraq to the southern Persian Gulf on Saturday. During the operation, the U.S., U.K., France, and Jordan all shot down the majority of Iranian drones and missiles. In fact, where U.S. aircraft originated from has not been officially announced, an omission that has been repeated by the mainstream media. Additionally, the role of Saudi Arabia is unclear, both as a base for the United States and in terms of any actions by the Saudi military.

“U.S. intelligence estimates that half of the weapons fired by Iran failed upon launch or in flight due to technical issues,” a U.S. Air Force senior officer told The Intercept. Of the remaining 160 or so, the U.S. shot down the majority, the officer said. The officer was granted anonymity to speak about sensitive operational matters.

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[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 90 points 7 months ago

That's not conspiratorial thinking at all, that's just geopolitical literacy. Your assessment is correct: Iran planned this carefully to avoid causing any major damage. This was pro wrestling.

Which honestly makes it sad to consider that Iran has become the more restrained, rational actor here. The US needs to put Netanyahu on a short leash. He is not worth this.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

I suspect Netanyahu wants a Trump presidency. I don't expect him to do Biden any favors - quite the opposite, really.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago

This. The "Genocide Joe" cohort doesn't realize they are falling right into Netanyahu and Trump's plan. I mean, at least the small number of them who aren't propagandists in the first place.

[-] machinin@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I would hold my nose to vote for Biden if my vote really counted, but I will still call him genocide Joe. If he continues down this path, I hope he is forever known as Genocide Joe. Let history know it.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Netanyahu and Trump

And the Kremlin, and the CCP.

[-] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They don’t give a shit because the genocide is already in progress. Also these people are very real, real enough to make an impact on the primaries. You liberals really just can’t help but constantly condescend to anyone who doesn’t do what you want them to.

It’s hilarious watching liberals try to blame their campaign failures on “Russian bots”. It’s always someone else’s fault

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yet they’re funding the democrats more than the republicans.

They get everything they want with Biden and the Dems, no one has stopped them.

With Trump they get a man who cohorts with neonazis, and they may get literal WW3 or a flakey ally.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Trump pushed US policy much closer to Israel. Biden has been mostly status quo, though leaning away from them which the US has never done before. I need a citation on funding to believe that claim, but regardless they already have republicans in their pocket. They don't need to spend any more to purchase them.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

Is the US really leaning away from Israel though. They’re still actively funding and aiding them.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68173904.amp - "US sanctions Israeli settlers over West Bank violence"

https://time.com/6591139/biden-israel-executive-order-sanctions/ - "What to Make of Biden’s Historic Sanctions on Israeli Settlers"

https://www.voanews.com/amp/calls-increase-for-israeli-accounting-for-gaza-airstrike/7556362.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/4/10/biden-israels-netanyahu-making-mistake-on-gaza

https://www.politico.eu/article/israels-netanyahu-says-he-will-defy-bidens-red-line-and-invade-rafah/

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/22/biden-netanyahu-friendship-pressure-campaign-00148328

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240404-%F0%9F%94%B4live-israel-accused-of-targeting-gaza-aid-convoy-car-by-car -

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago

Man, thanks for listing the sources. I didn't want to do the work. Yet, you got downvoted for it because they don't actually want to know the truth. They want to spread a lie.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 7 months ago

Leaning away as in away from our usual stance? Hell yeah. We historically wouldn't even criticize them.

[-] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago

The first time ever? Why do liberals constantly lie and exaggerate? No one with a brain believes you. Obama leaned away from Israel by actually blowing them off, Biden scolding Netanyahu a couple times while proceeding to give him billions in aid isn’t leaning away from shit.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

Obama I think criticized them, but I don't think there was ever any action behind it. I could be wrong about this but I think that's the case. That said, Obama never faced a situation like this. He would probably handle it I a way I more agree with, but he's not president so it doesn't really matter.

[-] lemmylem@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

There weren't any major wars when Trump was in office.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

It was a small 4 year period where most of the world was battling Covid and increasing death rates at home.

[-] lemmylem@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

U right.

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The best part of the “Genocide Joe” cohort is they call him that - despite the fact that he hasn’t committed a genocide - while simultaneously virulently denying the very real and well-documented genocides committed by communist Russia and China.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure I've called them out multiple times.

[+] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee -7 points 7 months ago

Ah so despite the fact that you seem to be aware of what an actual genocide is you decide to call Biden that…why, exactly? Because it sounds clever? Because you along with 90% of the rest of the world allowed Donald Trump to lead you down to the level of grown ass adults referring to literally fucking everybody by childish, idiotic nicknames?

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Ah so you deny there is a genocide in Palestine.

Disgusting.

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don’t deny there’s a genocide I just have a fucking brain in my skull and am capable of recognizing that Biden isn’t the person responsible for it because I don’t have my opinions spoon-fed to me by Russian bot-farms lol.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hey if a person goes and murders a bunch of people, and I give him guns wnd money and keep giving him them as he’s still actively murdering people, while also telling everyone else ”If you do anything about this, I will protect him” - would you not say I’m somewhat culpable?

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I’m sorry I didn’t realize Joe Biden was in full control of Congress - you know, the part of the government that fucking sets the budget and allocates spending. Do you think he is some kind of dictator? Cuz it sounds like that’s what you expect him to be.

There are fucking Schoolhouse Rock videos that display a more nuanced understanding of how the US government works than you do.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Joe Biden literally bypassed congress twice to give weapons to Israel.

Joe Bidens self appointed foreign secretary defends Israel from retaliation.

Joe Biden as commander in chief shields Israel from retaliation.

Joe Biden uses his own words to say he supports Israel.

Joe Biden uses his government and his position to enable Israel, end of fucking story.

You don’t get to hand wash away his direct and applicable support of Israel and pretend the PotUS is a completely powerless position unable to do anything.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

This was millions and millions of tax payer dollars spent for “pro wrestling”. Damn that’s sad. 😆

[-] neo@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago

I wouldn't call it a wrestling show, but an attempt to prevent two smoking drunks from a bar fight by enabling them to save face. Also the bar is covered in burnable liquor and we are all standing in it while the doors are shut.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

1 billion for defence, not that much for offence.

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