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Your experience of that is pretty much the key reason I've not bothered to explain this outside of a very limited specialist community I owed a lot to as I was putting it together.
I keep seeing new finds that would be really interesting to discuss, and I kind of hate seeing users confused about their own ancestral history while sitting knowing the answers, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be the one putting controversial answers out there in a more public way.
People are fucking nuts and it seems each day care less and less about actual truth and facts and more about tribalism and confirmation bias to the point of irrationality.
Over the next few years a lot of stuff will be identified by AIs capable of better correlation of data points than researchers to date, and then it can be the AI that gets to be the object of crazy people's ire and not actual humans that were just nerding out over research and data.
So in short, does the evidence linked mean that Jewish history and origin don't align sith the Bible? Shocker. As if anything in there shouldn't be taken with a bucketful of salt.
It's more the opposite.
That the mythologized history in the Bible does check out to a surprising degree for a LBA/Iron Age tribal ancestral origin of many Jews alive today.
The problem is it's not for the Israelites and Judah, and that's what's going to be the very controversial part.
So... the origin aligns with the bible, but what happened after that, doesn't? Sorry if I'm being annoying, I'm still a bit sleepy and trying to make sense of this.
Yeah.
You literally have a story in the Bible where a dude gets what appears in the text to be a matrilineal birthright stolen from him by the guy named 'Israel.'
Basically as time went on there's this aggressive rewriting of earlier periods of the history. It's hard to identify exactly when this happens (the Bible suggests it's earlier on, but the reforms are anachronistic given discovered communications with Jerusalem and a Greek historian in antiquity claimed the history of the Jews had recently been edited by Persian and Macedonian rulers).
But much like how Greek stories made pretty much everyone important Greek, the Israelite and Judean version of their history made everyone important Israelite or Judean and had the stories take place locally where they definitely didn't happen.
After the 10th century BCE the Biblical history starts to check out more and more, but before that it's not at all true for the people and places claimed. But it seems to be in line in parts with attested history of different people who were settled in the area between the 12th and 10th centuries BCE.