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I absolutely love how republicans all think prisons are insufficiently cruel, then suddenly become prison abolitionists, but only for Trump and Jan 6ers.
Like nah they're treating you with kiddy gloves. People got decades for non-violent crimes during the George Floyd protests.
Trump, the guy who said that police should rough up people they arrest, can't take the temperature of the courtroom (which isn't even cold). He complains about it constantly.
But prisons are supposed to be cruel?
This is what happens when your political ideology is rooted entirely in "us vs. them" beliefs.
Prisons are where our perfect American justice system sends bad people so that they can be rightfully punished. The more cruelty, the better the prison. If you didn't want to lose your rights and humanity, you shouldn't have committed crimes.
Unless it's me going to prison, in which case you should respect my rights and my humanity. Unlike them, I had a good reason for doing what I did, and you should respect that and let me do whatever I want.
No, prisons are not supposed to be cruel. They are supposed to be safe places of learning that rehabilitate those society has failed. We have a bunch of sadistic toddlers running the place sadly, so here we are.
Who got decades for non-violent crimes during BLM protests? Do you have names/sources?
I'm certain I saw something about someone getting 10+ years for burning police cars back in 2020, but I can't find it.
I could be misremembering and it was just the prosecutor asking for it, or google could just be complete shit now.
Ok serious question, what part of arson seems non-violent to you? And I can find you an example of two individuals who threw moltovs at a NYPD Van, They both pled out to less than 2 years.
According to every law enforcement agency in the U.S., federal and local, property crime is categorically different than violent crime.
Unless someone was injured or attacked, burning an empty vehicle is only a property crime.
Where is all this caviler attitude to setting fire to something with possibly 20 gallons of accelerant in it’s belly on a public street coming from. Can not speak to other states but NY literally has justification of murder if you see someone setting your residence on fire, you are fully authorized to kill them under law, NYPL 35.20(2) and thats New York (Including NYC). The risk to grave physical injury is so high in a fire that it is okay to kill to stop it. Trying to say literally trying to torch something with a belly of gas on a public street is okay? Do they not still teach about the Great Chicago fire and San Francisco Earthquake Fire in school anymore?
A house is not an obviously empty car. These two scenarios are not the same at all.
If a person is in danger, or could reasonably be expected to be in danger, then the elements of the crime obviously change significantly.
Wah wah wah, go lick another fucking boot.
Who is burning an unoccupied car violent towards?