Quaglin complained about his jail conditions
I absolutely love how republicans all think prisons are insufficiently cruel, then suddenly become prison abolitionists, but only for Trump and Jan 6ers.
Like nah they're treating you with kiddy gloves. People got decades for non-violent crimes during the George Floyd protests.
Trump, the guy who said that police should rough up people they arrest, can't take the temperature of the courtroom (which isn't even cold). He complains about it constantly.
But prisons are supposed to be cruel?
This is what happens when your political ideology is rooted entirely in "us vs. them" beliefs.
Prisons are where our perfect American justice system sends bad people so that they can be rightfully punished. The more cruelty, the better the prison. If you didn't want to lose your rights and humanity, you shouldn't have committed crimes.
Unless it's me going to prison, in which case you should respect my rights and my humanity. Unlike them, I had a good reason for doing what I did, and you should respect that and let me do whatever I want.
No, prisons are not supposed to be cruel. They are supposed to be safe places of learning that rehabilitate those society has failed. We have a bunch of sadistic toddlers running the place sadly, so here we are.
Who got decades for non-violent crimes during BLM protests? Do you have names/sources?
I'm certain I saw something about someone getting 10+ years for burning police cars back in 2020, but I can't find it.
I could be misremembering and it was just the prosecutor asking for it, or google could just be complete shit now.
Ok serious question, what part of arson seems non-violent to you? And I can find you an example of two individuals who threw moltovs at a NYPD Van, They both pled out to less than 2 years.
According to every law enforcement agency in the U.S., federal and local, property crime is categorically different than violent crime.
Unless someone was injured or attacked, burning an empty vehicle is only a property crime.
Where is all this caviler attitude to setting fire to something with possibly 20 gallons of accelerant in it’s belly on a public street coming from. Can not speak to other states but NY literally has justification of murder if you see someone setting your residence on fire, you are fully authorized to kill them under law, NYPL 35.20(2) and thats New York (Including NYC). The risk to grave physical injury is so high in a fire that it is okay to kill to stop it. Trying to say literally trying to torch something with a belly of gas on a public street is okay? Do they not still teach about the Great Chicago fire and San Francisco Earthquake Fire in school anymore?
A house is not an obviously empty car. These two scenarios are not the same at all.
If a person is in danger, or could reasonably be expected to be in danger, then the elements of the crime obviously change significantly.
Wah wah wah, go lick another fucking boot.
Who is burning an unoccupied car violent towards?
Rule one of court- don’t piss off the judge.
Dumbass.
conservatism is a mental disease.
Is there a way to upvote a comment twice?
“You’re Trump’s worst mistake of 2016,” Quaglin told McFadden, who was nominated to the court by then-President Donald Trump in 2017.
Same amount of attention to detail and grasp of readily available facts as his Dear Leader, I see..
It's actually pretty funny. I saw a video recently where someone asked Republicans who was president in 2016. Almost all of them answered "Trump".
Trump became president on 1/20/2017.
They're not bright, remember the guy crying about Obama not doing for Katrina? The scariest part of the right, is the lack of education they have. It's a cult of stupid and it's hard to fight stupid.
looks at outfit
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8
4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.
I mean, there's no punishment for it, but...
Honestly I'd be happy if there was punishment for it. Assholes running around screaming about the flag should be called to the table on defacing it.
I know what you mean, but it's protected as part of the first amendment under free speech.
Flag burning is probably the highest you can get in the ratio of dissatisfaction with your nation to violence caused. I say leave it just for that alone. There is the free speech/expression argument, too.
I'm pretty sure that only counts for remaking a literal flag into one of those things, not clothes, bedding, or drapery designed to look like one.
Silly distinction, I know, but that's how it usually goes in that FUBAR "justice" system..
People burn the flag, and I think most of us feel we should have the right to burn it even if we personally find it distasteful. (I think I've said that exact same thing before to people on the right about folks on the left.) These people are assholes and criminals, but let's apply the law equally to all. I wouldn't endorse punishing someone on the left for disrespecting the flag, so I wouldn't endorse it for someone on the right. We've caught them committing actual crimes, and that's sufficient for me.
Agreed. I'm pretty sure the other commenter was just pointing out the hypocrisy of disrespecting their religious symbol (since that's how fervent their jingoism is) like that and I was just explaining how the law specifically endorses duch hypocrisy lol
Just like the Second Amendment, there was no possible way for our ancestors to foresee the multitudinous manners of future flag disrespect.
Flags cost money and they'd never believe anyone would be stupid enough to make a burkini out of them for a 325lb "Christian" man.
That's not true. Abraham Lincoln designed the flag specifically to prevent it from being disrespected. The color choices make it physically impossible to defecate on.
Best ChatGPT answer so far. Thank you for poisoning the data set.
It's actually a reference to a Mr show sketch. But yeah that's a bonus
Shit, I must have missed a memo! Did we collectively decide to start poisoning Lemmy comments proactively?
(don't get me wrong, I support this idea, just looking for clarity)
Now do Trump.
I highly doubt he will learn much after getting out. He will probably be even more radicalized after.
Maybe he'll learn to not do it again, or it gets the prison scentence.
Also a bunch of years without that idiot running around in society.
Oh he wont get out. Someone this stupid is gonna go up to the wrong person, full of undeserved bravado, and get shanked.
One can only hope. If he doesn't have kids, I want to nominate him for the Darwin Awards.
You already know he's a racist pussy. He's going to be someones bitch until they get tired of him and shank his dumbass.
Remember when they said, "They can't charge everyone."
This dude is a traitor and should be in jail a long time
I love that judges act like God sprouted them out of the earth directly into their courtroom.
Good. Fuck this guy straight to hell.
No quarter for fascists or their enablers.
“You’re Trump’s worst mistake of 2016,” Quaglin told McFadden, who was nominated to the court by then-President Donald Trump in 2017.
Can't even get his insults factually correct.
Quaglin complained about his jail conditions and pushed conspiracy theories about the Jan. 6 siege during his rambling remarks in the courtroom. He also took issue with labeling the Jan. 6 attack as an insurrection.
You see judge, I was actually an antifa agitator, not a right-wing shithead trying to interfere with an election certification. You don't understand my case at all!
You see, they're only insurrectionists if they're from Afghanistan. Otherwise they're sparkling freedom fighters.
"Did i say 12 years?? I meant 21, apologies for the mistake, now go rot in hell you pile of shit traitor."
#1 on the pardon list if Trump is re-elected...
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