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In a sane world, a draft dodger saying he 'liked soldiers who didn't get captured' would have been enough.
The people who vote for him know what he is, they just don't care.
I think in a sane world, after the "grab 'em by the pussy" tape came out we'd have never heard from him again.
I've posted this story many times.
After the 'pussy grabber' tape came out, a conservative woman went on the TV show The View to defend Donald.
One of the other panelists kept repeating the word 'pussy' over and over. The Trump defender asked her to stop using that offensive word.
Cognitive dissonance does not exist for conservatives.
They would first have to possess a mind in order for it to hold two opposing thoughts
A reminder that there was a candidate who got too excited and yelled in a weird way then got erased because of it. Now we have Robert "brainworm" Kennedy still on people's radar sounding like he's gargled gravel everyday since he was 12.
Poor Howard Dean, we could use that enthusiasm now.
Not to mention someone misspelled potato once, and his political career got torched from it.
His son is an ex-Congressman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Quayle
Little swine was about 25 in 2001, and somehow decided he didn't need to join the military. Later he talked about saving the country from Obama
Apples and trees...
Iirc he didn't even get 'too excited' he just had the mic too close to his mouth.
That was after losing Iowa, it likely wasn't the deciding factor on its own.
In a sane world, yes.
In the real world, the people who support him are the ones who identify with him, and the ones who identify with him think that sexual assault is the pinnacle of masculinity.
Or justifiable as a means to an end
As god as my witness I don't know why this wasn't the end of it
Upvoted before I clicked it because I knew exactly what you were talking about. Only clicked to verify.
I appreciate your thoroughness
For sure
Why is everyone talking about a hypothetical sane world? It's not. Maybe it never was. It's a mad mad mad mad world.
(No conscious reference to the movie, it's just a title that seems apt.)
I didn't get the reference. All I could think of was mad mad mad mad mad Madam Mim from Sword in the Stone.
https://youtu.be/i415QwSj0Og
One scene from a great movie
Now I have another movie on my list. That pilot is a man after my own heart.
The actor or the stuntman, or both?
FYI, it's a 1960s movie and runs long. You might want to break it into chunks.
Both, but mostly Thurston Howell III. I'd also like an old fashioned.
A man ahead of his time!
It's been said the pain of the bamboozle is too much for most to acknowledge so they continue to double down on it. The great grifters and conmen know this and use it to their advantage.
Many think it's only the stupid and uneducated that are taken in by these scams. At times it's the tribal nature that we can get caught up in.
Often the educated are worse off as they know better and the grave injury to their egos won't allow them to announce to others they have fallen victim as it's pretty embarrassing. They take their lumps and move on with their lives if they do recognize they have fallen into these traps.
It's going to be many years before we get to the other side and then I wonder if it will be like what the Spanish referred to as the Miracle that occurred when Franco died.
After decades in power, the citizens that fought for Franco and supported him ceased to exist. When asked everyone fought against Franco in the civil war and they secretly fought against him at every level of society, government, and the military. It was miracle how he came to power and won a war with no support from anyone at any level within Spain.
If we ever get past the identity association of team Orange it will be interesting who is found to still be supporting this current day madness especially among the religious groups that support a man that displays so many of the things many of the regular members would be chastised for...
In the 1960 election Kennedy beat Richard Nixon with something like 52% of the vote.
In 1980, they polled a bunch of people who had voted in that election and somehow 99% of them had voted for Kennedy.
Politics has become teams winning and losing, and a lot of people don’t like to “admit to supporting the losers”
People in the UFO scene do the same with their grifters.
I recall reading the Sagan's Demon Haunted World and the section dedicated to this "phenomenon". The self convincing and conviction to these events was pretty amazing to read about from a curiosity prospective. The letters he would receive were pretty far out there.
My matter of fact father swears late one night while grading logging roads in a remote area in the 70s, he saw a big bright light in the sky that he couldn't explain and it moved in ways he didn't expect.
Being out in the wilderness I'm sure it wasn't a comfortable situation for him. I still wonder what he saw but thankfully there was no accompanying abduction story to go with it in his case. These types of stories and shows did get his a attention forever after as a result.
I personally think there must be some truth to the phenomenon as a whole. But I can’t stand the grifters who sidle up seeking attention or money after a time.
"Dr Steven Greer"
While I'm not sure about the lights alone, I've read that more often than not those that claim to have been abducted recently had surgery where they were "put under." The idea is that they're "remembering" the lights and shapes of the doctors being over them while they dream, but because they already had the surgery some time ago they believe this is a new event that just happened to them.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Attributed (but debated) to Samuel Clemens.
And it’s even easier to convince them that everyone else has been fooled.
This! We don't need to call people out or harass them for being stupid. We just need for them to drift away from the cult. The constant publicity and chatter just feeds it.
Sunk cost fallacy with voting, ugh
The thing that makes this somewhat relevant is how close the election is. If those tapes exist, and you can get them to the right social media accounts, it might make 0.5 percent of his voters reconsider (and that might be sufficient).
A Trump voter quote that always live rent free in my head is "He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting".
It tells you everything they need to know about them. They have a shit life, and they want to make damn sure everyone else has a shit life too.
Before Trump I could pretend I lived in a world where the great majority of people were reasonably intelligent and kind.
Everyone stopped masking post 2016.
Figuratively and literally.
There's an internet joke that the Mayans were right about the world ending in 2012; we just didn't realize that the collapse would be gradual.
It's still true. It's not that the majority of these people are actually thinking, "How can I make the world worse and make the greatest number of people's lives bad?" Rather, they're under the impression that others (probably you) are saying that, and worse, that Trump is somehow their best defense against it.
It's a bully mentality. I don't want to make things better for anyone, I want to make things worse for them. Literal playground bully.
Only because they have a misguided sense of revenge and want to blame the libs for their truncated life expectations when in fact they’ve been supporting and voting for the very politicians most likely to keep pushing their heads under water.
They want to hurt their opponents. They don’t care what the price is.
Every single time he opens his mouth would be enough.
Donald Trump taught the worst of us that it not only is okay to be a bigoted racist, but that it is okay to be that in public.
A lot of them care, they just like that he does it. It legitimizes their own shittiness.
No, they do care. They think the same way.
I think they care that he's relatable to them.
They relate to the hatred.