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WTF Joe
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this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2024
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Luckily the ACLU is already taking up the fight...
Buts it's disgusting watching so many people defend it because he has a D by his name, thats what republicans did, and it didn't take long to get to trump.
Throwing all your standards away is never a good thing.
Also remember that the GoP, if they get in, will dismantle the system entirely and probably allow public executions of LGBTQ
It's not that people like Joe
It's that they want a democracy to remain
Hell, a lot are probably hoping Joe drops dead of old age shortly into a second term
I'm not.
Harris is worse.
2028 primary can't come soon enough.
Absolutely agree.
If you're upset about this election, Vote In The Primary's!
Vote in your local elections!
Make the change happen for next time.
So what is everyone going to say if trump runs again in 2028?
That maybe you can find someone better in 2032?
Regardless of whether Trump runs again in 2028, we should pick a better candidate in the 2028 primaries, like we should have in the 2020 primaries. Maybe this time people will fucking show up for the primaries so we can get a progressive candidate elected.
But the thing is...
Everyone voting for Biden, would vote for anyone with a D by their name. Even if they had zero idea what that name was.
So why not run a popular candidate, who won't do all this horrible shit, and win even easier?
Like, everyone just accepts that Biden is the only option besides trump.
And he's not even a good option. He barely won last time when he didn't have all the baggage.
Okay, which popular candidate is running?
He's been asked that a hundred times. Never provides an answer.
Democrat Yeezus 2028-2062
Me, who remembers Nader and the 2000 stolen election that started kicked off this entire slide towards a fascist state, reading comments and posts like this.
Don't gift the GOP the election just because Biden sucks ass. He has sucked ass since always, but he's better than the literal wnd of American democracy.
Oh, boy! I love when people say this.
Biden took half a trillion dollars’ worth of action on climate change which he funded by taxing Amazon + friends which ticked emissions down to 40% reduction by 2030 which is way too late and nowhere near enough no but he started working on it the instant he got in office and had to do the whole thing twice because Manchin blew up the first much more aggressive one at the last minute so yes we need to do a hell of a lot more but it seems weird to pick out the ONE guy in American government who has achieved ANY level of forward progress and give him and only him criticism about how we can’t possibly elect him especially since the other guy wants to undo even that step and start blowing up the planet even harder which makes me question a little bit whether you REALLY care about climate change or whether your explicit targeting of the one guy who made some progress on it is maybe motivated by something else
Also there's student loan forgiveness, 15% minimum corporate tax, 7% increase in wages at the bottom end as compared with inflation even when inflation is at historic levels, NLRB providing legal backing for union activity for the first time in quite a while
I have a few others on the list. The news talks about a bunch of weird bullshit so the fact that all of that happened is virtually unknown in this country. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, though.
Biden received more than 81 million votes, the most votes ever cast for a candidate in a U.S. presidential election.
As if this matters with the electoral college.
I know. It's infuriating.
People act like they've zero eyes, ears and memory and ballotpedia isn't a thing. It's only immoral and unethical when the other person abandons their ethics and morals.
I feel like he’s making these moves to try to bring in right-wing voters who say they care about immigration, but literally none of them will give a shit and they’ll still accuse him of being soft on immigration. All he’s doing is just pissing off people in his own party for no actual political gain.
It won't be literally none. You're used to the online bubble where everyone's either rabidly for or rabidly against Trump, but in the actual real world there are still some people who are somewhere in the middle.
I'm not. Both are horrible and not worth my consideration.
This is not a Biden "move". It's a response to limitations
Unfortunately, a large number of Democrats and independents still think of the border as being in crisis
I'm "defending it" because the man, nor his political affiliation caused this.
He has no option to continue, and no ability to get this type of law passed by Congress.
What are our standards? Letting an unlimited number of people into the country per day without any sort of legal process or system? I genuinely don't understand what people here are arguing for...
The ACLU has no legal leg to stand on here and are just doing performative politics to raise donations. Despite what libertarian "sovereign citizens" would tell you, last time I checked civil liberties don't include being allowed to travel and live wherever you want without any sort of legal process. Putting a rather generous upper limit of 2,500/day for asylum claims (from non-port border crosses only) isn't a violation of anybody's rights.
Once upon a time, people could freely travel across borders. EU citizens still do.
Well you'd better have some firearms close to your standards so you can enforce them after you win civil war 2.
No, seriously, if you want the US to shift towards the left and Trump gets into power, be prepared to fight and die for those ideals. You won't be able to just sit around and wait until the civil war is over, you'll have to fight in it.
Biden barely won 2020 without his baggage and with trump telling Republicans (who traditionally used vote by mail more than anyone else) that voting by mail won't be counted...
Less than 100,000 rhousand or so votes across five states and Biden lost...
This election Biden has his baggage. trump just launched a big push for vote by mail.
Republicans will vote Republican no matter what.
Dems have standards.
If you're talking about what's most likely going to lead to trump winning...
It's Biden refusing to listen to Dem voters on damn near anything.
What, no mention of the genocide? You're really slipping here.
And again, since you're spamming otherwise here:
Biden received more than 81 million votes, the most votes ever cast for a candidate in a U.S. presidential election.
Blue MAGA is gonna Blue MAGA.
Hey, it's your catch phrase! Bad news though, I made a little histogram, and it's not catching on. There was a huge spike back around the 20th of May when you and a few other people made a concerted effort to start using it, but it dwindled back down to like a few times a week again since then.
I think you should start inserting it into the discourse some more. It's sure to catch on. Just keep repeating it! Don't get discouraged if people make fun of you for it.
I've told you that I didn't create it. It's been a "thing" on social media since 2016. Here's all the Blue MAGA search results on Twitter:
https://x.com/search?q=%23BlueMAGA&src=typed_query&f=top
I know you don't use Twitter but others can see for themselves.
An example