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AOC defeats moderate challenger in Democratic primary
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It amazes me that primaries are held this late in the year. It’s only four months or so until the election.
Only in America. Other counties campaign for a few weeks. The US turns it into a 12 month fund raising and media spectacular, with primaries at the halfway point.
A while back, HR 1 For the People Act promised to remedy much of the issue but it never got a vote in the senate because Republicans held the Senate Speaker until the next congress was formed.
And because, having gotten back in power, Dem leadership didn't take it up again as they too are getting rich from the current system.
TBF, after the 2020 election they were faced with issues like budget reconciliation and debt limit (without which nothing would be voted on at all during a government shutdown) as well as reimplementing some of the many regulations taken down by the Trump admin and finally passing a 1.9 Trillion Dollar infrastructure deal alongside a new round of stimulus checks (which the receiving states decided how to use, sadly), and many congressional hearings about corruption of the former administration and federal judges (which ultimately hasn't lead anywhere other than referrals to the DOJ).
So in the 2 year span that they held 48 + 2 senate seats and house majority, they were pretty tied up I would say.
EDIT: Plus, it would've been filibustered anyways.
Same reason Biden is talking about a potential tax on the rich but won't ever be caught talking about repealing the Trump tax raise on the working class that actually happened.
The Trump tax cut expires next year. Biden has promised not to renew it if he's reelected.
Get informed.
Uh huh.
And he didn't repeal it why?
You should probably not be asking smug rhetorical questions when you don't actually understand how the federal government works.
Use a search engine, educate yourself.
It was an act passed by congress and signed by a sitting president. Biden alone doesn't have the authority to change it, and if he did try that then it would be caught up in courts for years.
Why make election season much longer than needed?
Printing ballots can be done quite quickly.
And is 6 months of campaigning really better than 2 months?
Ffffuuuuuuucccckkk no its not better. It's just that our system predated most parliaments, and as such the founding fathers made some stupid choices that made it utterly impossible to amend basic quailty of life changes for our democracy.
What did the founding fathers decide that made it impossible to have short election seasons in the US?
The process to amend the constitution. It's all but impossible given modern politics, and that's largely been true for 50 years and counting.
That has nothing to do with how long election season is.
Are you even American?
Our election cycle cant be curtailed or shifted because our constitution can't realistically be amended to match the saner policies in other countries. When our constitution is so antiqued that that "money is speech" becomes the law of the land, there is a core problem with the founding document itself.
How it that not related to our election cycle?
Because a constitutional convention is so wildly unlikely it's just distracting from any actually helpful suggestions.
I'm talking about our broken government system, not what's helpful. The fact that a constitutional convention is impossible is exactly the problem. Its why many parts of our democracy are broken, and will likely ultimately be the downfall of our nation.
Thr founders called the Constitution a living document, with Jefferson specifically talking about how it must change to as American changes. To do that, they put in a wildly difficult mechanism that is nearly impossible to actually invoke, and added lifetime arbiter roles that can opt to unwind any law not written in pen and ink on that same paper.
Those are critical fuckups if you intend to have a living document and a shapeable democracy.
If you know it's not helpful why are you wasting time on it?
Why talk about the structure of our government? Education, general interest, activism?
Why are you wasting time talking about wasting time if it's just wasting time?
I have seen that user repeatedly argue in bad faith. I assume they are doing something similar here. The wasting of time is the point. I think they're just a troll.
Just in the spirit of pedantry, its not really true to say that the US system predated most parliaments.
Like, maybe its technically true now due to the expansion of democratic and republic systems in the post-colonial era, but parliaments in Western Europe were plentiful and long-established in 1776.
The first American government was notable in that is was completely divorced from a hereditary Monarch, and I don't wanna downplay that, but a system in which a representitive body of land-owners is elected by an enfranchised class to decide policy and even pass legislation existed in, for example, Iceland since the 10th Century, Catalonia since the 12th, England since the 13th. It was arguably the standard during the enlightenment in Europe.
My two cents, the US system does seem to be remarkably inflexible. I guess it's complicated to unpack why exactly, but a combination of myth-making, bad-faith originalists, and the sheer size of the country probably all play a part in it
It's better for the politicians wallets.
Well no, it's better for the politician's campaign's wallets. If people could spend campaign funds however they wanted then Donald Trump would have quite a few less pending felonies.
First of all, there's TONS of ways to enrich yourself by running for office without technically breaking any of the very flimsy campaign finance laws. That's why people with literally no chance of winning keep running for public offices up to and including the presidency.
Second of all, the FEC, which is ALREADY as toothless as a nonagenarian who never brushed his teeth due to chronic deliberate underfunding and understaffing, has an EXTREME backlog of cases from having lacked a quorum for the better part of a year.
Third, even if the FEC was otherwise effective, this is TRUMP we're talking about here. He's getting away with TONS of campaign finance fraud and legal misuse of donations as is.
I agree. Why weren't they all done last November?
The Dem presidential primary still has like two more months.
Biden and his pick for DNC chair set the date, they could have made it whenever.
They choose after the deadline to get on all 50 ballots for some reason.
It's pretty recent that campaigning started so early. Even Obama didn't campaign as early as trump and Biden do.
Has Trump ever stopped campaigning since 2016? I feel like this has gone on for decades.
Dems? Primary?
ROFL.
Massachusetts has not held its Senate primary yet either. I had to check, it will be on September 3rd it seems.