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Zelenskyy: Seeing children die makes me want to kill Putin
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The country was ten types of broke before the war even started. You want them to invest billions they didn't have in a race to enrich uranium they couldn't access so they could kick off a nuclear war with a country directly on their border?
Fuck it, give em one of our old ones. I'm sure we've got some nukes from the 80s laying around.
We'll just have to track them down, first...
Good news! They're already in Russia
I'm not even joking, give them a hundred nukes we don't use. It'll be a lot cheaper for everyone.
Except Russia if they don't run away. And the world, but, honestly, this place has seen better days.
If the only point you'd contest is the after Crimea part Ukraine being too poor to do it I'd suggest allies that also signed the memorandum should be helping provide supplies and technical support. I don't believe any further Russian invasion would have happened under a nuclear armed Ukraine preventing the current conventional war. I don't think Ukraine owning nuclear weapons would result in a nuclear war because it's the same deterrent preventing Russia from using them themselves today.
Wasn't a major Russian Causa Belli the prospect of a nuclear armed NATO on it's border?
Ukraine wasn't trying to join NATO before Russia invaded neighbors including Crimea in Ukraine, and they had signed the non proliferation treaty, including Russia, to not develop nuclear weapons as long as Russia did not invade their borders. If preventing a nuclear armed or NATO allied Ukraine was their goal and Russia invaded Ukraine twice in direct opposition to that started goal that means their stated causa belli was a lie.
In the years before war, Ukraine’s leaders made enthusiastic pleas about their desire to bring the country into NATO, and the prospect rose in popularity in public polls
2018 and 2019 were well after Crimea, and the popular opinion in Ukraine shifted towards NATO in 2008 because of the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008, one of said neighbors.
Why stop there? Lets argue about the Winter War.
Because the Soviet Union who is not Russia fought the winter war, and Russia's government signed the Budapest memorandum in 1994.