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submitted 5 months ago by xnx@slrpnk.net to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Vimms lair is starting to remove many roms that are being requested to be removed by Nintendo etc. soon many original roms, hacks, and translations will be lost forever. Can any of you help make archive torrents of roms from vimms lair and cdromance? They have hacks and translations that dont exist elsewhere and will probably be removed soon with ios emulation and retro handhelds bringing so much attention to roms and these sites

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[-] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 152 points 5 months ago

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

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[-] SternburgExport@feddit.de 80 points 5 months ago

Nooo… that was my goto rom archive after emuparadise went down. F u Nintendo I‘m not paying a monthly subscription to play retro games.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 69 points 5 months ago

There are already torrents containing collections of all the games from old systems. What there needs to be is an "official" collection torrent for each system that archivists can store and seed individually

[-] xnx@slrpnk.net 24 points 5 months ago

There arent ones that include hacks and fan translations. For example PSP games like monster hunter portable 2nd G with the FUComplete patch or Monster Hunter Portable 3rd G with the English Patch v5

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago

Every time I see this news (Reddit or Lemmy) I see this kind of comment, but I wonder, what if I want to download just a ROM of a few mbs? I certainly don't want to hoard the whole collection, as a torrent user I believe I can just pick up the file (if it isn't zipped), but wouldn't that be against the torrent's moral code?

[-] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 5 months ago

But most (all?) Torrent clients let you select which files you want to download so of there was an official unarchived torrent then archivists could seed forever and others could select the ROMs/manuals/etc. that they wanted

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

And this way we will get uncompleted seeds and in the further future nobody will be able to complete the damn torrent.

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 16 points 5 months ago

I don't think that's an issue. Downloading a partial is a problem on private trackers since there are so few users, but on a public tracker, someone downloading a partial is just making the swarm a bit more robust: they are sharing connections details to other users in the swarm and are able to partially seed part of the content.

Hit & run torrent users are the bigger problem; they add nothing to the ecosystem. But, for example, if there's a "complete early roms for all systems nointro unzipped" torrent, and someone only downloads and seeds the SNES section, then the swarm gets the benefit of someone sharing that section of the content.

You could even get a situation where there are no "seeds" but 100% availability, with different people sharing different sections.

I'm not fully looped in to why Anna's Archive did what they did, but their massive 1TB+ torrent zips are pretty useless for most purposes. I'd be happy to download a partial and seed books in, say, a particular genre, but I'm not going to seed a partial of a massive zip file that's useless to me without the full archive.

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[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 8 points 5 months ago

Do you know where I can find them? I will seed them all

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[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 5 months ago

Nintendo is just cheap Japanese Disney for gamers. They're every bit the corporate monster the mouse is, they're simply just not as powerful yet.

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[-] simple@lemm.ee 49 points 5 months ago

It's honestly kind of amazing that it lasted so long in the first place

[-] Moorshou@lemmy.zip 37 points 5 months ago

I'm gonna miss vimms lair, never told a soul about it. And I'd help but my internet is terrible rural internet.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Vimms always appeared first in Google searches for ROMS. it was inevitable

Ugh...Next will be the Archive

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 5 months ago
[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 5 months ago

The whole point of IP laws (according to the Constitution of the United States) is to develop a robust public domain. Every registered idea, multiplied by every limited rights extention is a violation of public interest and public rights.

By burying or failing to preserve content, they are in fact stealing from the public, since we won't be able to access it when it is our right.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 months ago

Someone should present this to some progressive legislative body so that we can develop a safe haven for archiving games.

[-] Macros@feddit.de 19 points 5 months ago

Well there is the Stop Killing Games initiative started by Ross Scott and supported by the Pirate Parties. If they succeed, companies selling games in recent years will be required to either keep supporting their game or to make it available in a way so that others can ensure its continued support.

When this is achieved the step to free older games is small.

If you live in Europe you have the chance to support the movement by vote in the upcoming elections.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago

I've been keeping a close eye on it. He said something along the lines of "If you live in the US and the ToS of a piece of software said the publishers could come and shoot your dog, you'd have to prove that they broke some other law, like animal cruelty, to sue them successfully if they shot your dog." I'm curious to see how companies react if they get a mandate from the EU to preserve games.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 months ago

Here in the US, there are no progressive legislative bodies. The Democratic party treats its progressive members as the red-haired stepchildren who have to dine at their own table.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 5 months ago

This is America, the only law that is enforced is ownership by means of a monetary transaction.

"Ownership" by public nature is laughed at.

C.R.E.A.M :(

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[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 months ago

Damn...Vimms Lair was my favorite, friggin Nintendo doing what it does best...

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

My kid has the first Nintendo Switch, he wanted the new one, but I told him "you're getting a Steam Deck, and we're smashing all Nintendo shit with a sledgehammer". Then I explained to him why it's wrong to support compaies that enshitify life, and now he is waiting for his Deck and has already pirated all the games he liked and has been testing a few emulators.

I'm proud of him.

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[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago

At least vimms lair still has xbox roms. Pretty hard to come by compared to nintendo roms.

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[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A friend of mine and I put this together a few years ago. I hope yall find it helpful:

#!/usr/bin/env bash

download_roms(){
    for ((i=$1; i<=$2; i++)); do
        cd "$HOME/retroarch"
        curl  -G -L "https://download3.vimm.net/download/?mediaId=$i" -H 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/110.0' -H 'Referer: https://vimm.net/' -O  -J
    done
}

choose_system(){
printf "\n============================================"
printf "\n NOTE: This Script has not been fully tested"
printf "\n       It may not work as expected"
printf "\n============================================\n"
printf "Download roms for which systems?
    1. NES
    2. SNES
    3. GameBoy
    4. N64
    5. GameCube
    6. Sega Genesis
    7. Playstation1-2
    8. Playstation Portable
    0. All\n : "

read -r system
    case $system in
        "1") download_roms 3      981    "NES";;
        "2") download_roms 983    1770   "SNES";;
        "3") download_roms 2955   5932   "GameBoy";;
        "4") download_roms 2465   2761   "N64";;
        "5") download_roms 7461   7634   "GameCube";;
        "6") download_roms 1771   2464   "Sega Genesis";;
        "7") download_roms 6071   9894   "Playstation1-2";;
        "9") download_roms 23991  23973  "Playstation Portabale";;
        "0") download_roms 1      100000 "All";;
    esac
}

mkdir -p "$HOME/retroarch"
choose_system
[-] Barzaria@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago

Thank you for the awesomeness that is the script. If I might ask a question: why is the user agent Windows 10 if this is a bash script? I'm genuinely curious and I don't know why.I imagine this might be WSL. You did mention it was an old script so maybe it had something to do with that?

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago

The "user-agent" part of the script is the same as a browser's user agent. So it's trying to emulate a common user so the site doesn't know it's a script, and there's not a more common user than a Windows one, so it's lying about it.

[-] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

It explicitly sets it to that to help disguise the fact that it's a script rather than a browser

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[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 months ago

Please also post on the filehoarder subreddit.

[-] xnx@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 months ago
[-] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago

I guess he means the subreddit in reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago

It reads like many ROMs are already gone? So any archive created now would be incomplete, right?

Centralized archives will always be vulnerable to this.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago

VIMM's Lair has been around for ages... If Nintendo really cared why didn't they do something around, say, 2002? 🤔

Why is there no statute of limitations on this kinda bullshit?

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago

I don't think that's a good argument. In a more general case, if you didn't pursue your rights 10 years ago that doesn't mean you can't get your shit together and do it today. Maybe you've lost some of what you deserved but you still should get future benefits.

As for statue of limitations, if it keeps happening today then it doesn't matter when it started. They could only talk about things that happened in the past year - it's still being hosted and shared.

To be clear, I'm not taking Nintendo's side, all efforts to preserve these games are amazing and I love to see everyone keep it up :)

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[-] WallEx@feddit.de 22 points 5 months ago

We need explicit legislation against this type of behavior.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 5 months ago

This shit pisses me off so much. I need a gun

[-] Muscar@discuss.online 17 points 5 months ago

Use a NES Zapper converted to an actual gun, seems fitting.

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[-] bier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago

As soon as I heard about the emulator stuff I grabbed some archive torrents to seed overall more then 5 tb. All WII DS 3DS and SWITCH roms so they aren't gone if you have the space to join seeding pm me and I'll send you the magnet links because there are like only 5 seeder and a lot of leecher

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[-] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago

Let's start mirroring and torrenting full ROMsets!

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago

Wait is CDRomance also under threat? Ugh

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[-] xKeaton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 months ago

I recommend switching to Myrient! Has been my source for quite some time now, because Vimms was just to slow for me.

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[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

They should still be on myrient, not?

[-] xnx@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 months ago

For now. Myrient doesnt use torrents either so when Nintendo comes for them the files are gone

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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

Whoever runs it must have all of that stored locally, too, no?

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

Need a list of missing games first.

[-] potat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

Are these roms/hacks that aren't in the roms megathread? I'd have to assume most of these already have duplicates somewhere else just by nature of them being put online

[-] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago

Dang I thought they would never get hit...

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Why would you think that?

I saw that place gained lots of popularity fairly recently... Mostly on Reddit.

Isn't there a way to just host all those roms in a site where Nintendo has no jurisdiction?

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