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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Subject6051@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

edit 2: thank you to everyone who replied.

edit: What type of leechers are acceptable and what kind are not acceptable according to you?

It's amazing how much I need others to validate my actions. I wish I could live guilt free without this. But, I can't, so here I am. Good people of lemmy, judge me

I don't have a lot of internet. I get like 1.5 GB of internet a dafy and it's 4G, not truly 4g, more like 0.2 mbps to 4mbps at max and I don't seed after I am done downloading my torrents. If I had greater amounts of Data, like limitless data or something like 2000GBs per month or something, I would constantly be seeding, but I don't. Are my actions morally justifiable? I feel guilty when that last seeder seeds me all I need and when someone needs another seeder, I turn off my seeding :(

I mean, I don't want to do it, but with the data I have, I can't afford to seed much, what should I do?

I might take some time to reply to you, I ain't abandoning the thread btw, is https://sh.itjust.works/ down? Just asking, I could not access it today

PS: I seed books and stuff like that. I mean, they are only like 1 or 2 mbs and I seed em when no one else is. But you know other stuff like extra legal videos series, soap operas etc etc are beyond me

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[-] salarua@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 year ago

for every person who leeches on mobile data and can't afford to seed, there's someone who has a freakishly powerful rig that seeds like 17 different torrents 24 hours a day. if you can't afford to seed, don't worry about it, because people who can afford to seed often do. things balance out in the end

[-] ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I don't have a seed box but I constantly seed a few hundred torrents on my 1 Gbps connection. Many of them I've been seeding for over ten years. I couldn't care less about people like OP. Everyone should just do the best they can. If the best you can do is leech, that's okay with me.

[-] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Everyone should just do the best they can.

That's the key to most of everyday life. Just do your best.

[-] asmodeus@programming.dev 46 points 1 year ago

Being a leecher when you don't have any alternatives is not something bad.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I leeched when I was on limited bandwidth now I am the sole peer for about a dozen hard to find torrents. Balance in all things.

[-] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 year ago

Most people don't usually torrent on mobile data, and if they do it's understandable that they can't be expected to give back. It's fine, maybe in the future when you get broadband you can start seeding back.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 34 points 1 year ago

Leachers are a fact of life. It's not praiseworthy, but it's not damning.

[-] BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

Don't worry about it. On the other side of the spectrum are people who use seed boxes which are literally seeding machines. I'm currently seeding 27 torrents 24/7. I occasionally go through and delete old ones with a good ratio (2+) and plenty of seeders. I was in a place similar to you once and I appreciated those who could seed. Now I'm trying to give back.

[-] Anon819450514@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

500 torrent seeder here. I was a leecher back then, but now I have the bandwidth capacity and the Internet speed to do much more than before. I don't mind the leechers, they are part of the ecosystem.

[-] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

This might sound funny but I am serious. Thank you for your service. Like, not parallel to marines, but sure as hell you are a force for good :') In a few years, I will share the burden :)

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

weak, i have 5 torrents with a ratio over 1000, 334 TB seeded in total.

at this point i just do it because it's fun to have big numbers

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

From each as per their ability for each as per their need.

[-] JTode@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Dude, from a much more privileged place, please, enjoy your movies and bring yourself all the happy moments you can get.

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

I used to be a leacher, even when I had a broadband connection. I never really knew why seeding was important. Now, I try to match the data I have uploaded, at least, if not more. Like, of I download a 50gb of something. I seed at least 50gb before I remove it.

[-] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

perfectly balanced, like all things should be

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

I'm a leech because you can get fined in my country for seeding too much

[-] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

is India one of those countries? Are there perfectly safe ways to seed?

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing is perfectly safe but the least risk would be not torrenting and paying for Usenet binaries (or sharing drives with friends?)

As far as torrenting goes, reducing your risk is probably best done with a VPN but I wouldn't know who's really trustworthy (surely it's in the megathread though?) - won't be free, though.

Lechers aren't all bad, you're still contributing while it's active. When you're situation changes, it sounds like you're behaviour will, so live and let live, cuz...

(I'm fairness, my wife is a leech and I'm not, but it depends on who gets to deluge first...)

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't worry about it, not everyone can have good Internet. You're doing what you can and that's okay.

Some people like to rent a seedbox because of this, that way they can download and upload torrents very quickly, especially on private trackers.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Seed > Leech > Disconnected. You’re still providing redundancy for the torrent, but it would be better to seed obviously.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Ganesha would seed, Shiva might leech.

[-] Jackie_meaiii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

More upload for me

[-] Dangdoggo@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think you're a bad person but you wouldn't be welcome amongst my torrent communities.

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

It's fine, if hit-and-run leeching was a huge problem then more trackers would enforce seed ratios. But most don't, because it's not. The fact that you mostly leech just means that you can't most private trackers. Oh well, just use the public trackers instead and seed what you can.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

IDC if you seed or leech as long as everyone that wants the file gets it.

[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Pay $2 a month to Gigarapid and get their basic plan.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

As long as you seed long enough for me to get the bits I need, I’m cool 

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried seeding with my data. Typically I get around 1Mbps during the day. Also being behind CG-NAT doesn't help it (can't open ports). So far I only managed to get one torrent above 1.0 ratio, but it took quite a while.

So my guess is that even if you tried, you possibly wouldn't be that successful anyway. Also many popular torrents already have fast seedboxes competing, so your slow unconnectable network won't see much demand anyway.

[-] Ecksell@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I just know Master Roshi is hilarious!

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