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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 78 points 5 months ago

Inb4 centrists "that's unfairly reductive! That's not what we're saying!"

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 37 points 5 months ago

I think I hate centrists the most.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 43 points 5 months ago

While I find centrists to be the most frustrating, I hate the bigots the most.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago

Nah, hate the right the most, but don't let people try to invalidate your right to feel frustrated with status quo sluggishness

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 20 points 5 months ago

I hate the fascists the most followed closely by their enablers. It's nitpicking, but the centrists can be easily manipulated into choosing the middle ground between Democrats and Progressives, so it makes them somewhat useful if you can swing things a bit.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"I'm a centrist, all my beliefs just so happen to coincide with one side and it ain't yours"

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I don't often see the centrists chiming to hear from the liberal side.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Normally I'm super liberal! Go ahead and check my comment history, that way you can waste your time and argue semantics with me. I vote Democrat consistently and strongly support my senator, Nancy Pelosi. But on this one specific issue that we're coincidentally talking about right now, you have to admit the far right at least have a point - anyone who passed a college economics class should know that. So anyhow, that's why children should be allowed to work in coal mines again.

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

You leftists are just too far left. But Hitler was a bit too far right, so i guess I'm in the middle.

[-] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

What makes a man turn neutral?

[-] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Lust for gold? Power? Or where you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago

People can disagree on policy - on values, though? On values, someone who disagrees with me can fuck right off. Human rights and democracy, please.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

I'm done with democracy and propose a new form of government:

Once a month, there's a giant parade and everyone who has an idea gets to put together their own float/performance; best entries get governmental positions based on ranking. Anytime there's a disagreement, each team will debate by presenting their argument while completing challenges from '90s-'00s Nickelodeon game show challenges; chatGPT will rate which argument is the most cohesive and assign percentages and then the time differences will be added to each team to determine final scores.

Finally, if anyone is caught cheating or trying to create fascism, their entire parade team gets eaten alive by all of the other parade teams. Only people willing to eat others alive or get eaten alive are allowed to be politicians.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 17 points 5 months ago

It used to be that every group in New New York wanted their own parade. Why, when I was a boy, we had a parade every day. Those were dark times.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Only people willing to eat others alive or get eaten alive are allowed to be politicians.

Wait, is that 'or' or 'and' get eaten alive? Like, what if I'm willing to be eaten alive, but I want my other teammates to do all the people-eating for me?

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

How dare you correct my wrong words! I'll see you on the Steps of Knowledge, punk!

[-] InvisibleHat@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Would I be allowed in the parade if I wasn’t a politician?

If so, then I agree with your idea.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Every third Friday is the citizens' parade followed by naked mole rat races Sunday

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

Homophobes at Pride events wave a sign that says GAY= Got AIDS yet?

All conservatives are trash.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Using an acronym to make another acronym is totally cheating, too! "GAIDSY?"

[-] moody 6 points 5 months ago

I'm so meta even this acronym.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Took me a minute.

[-] Endmaker@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Can't violate human rights if they are sub-human

roll safe

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 14 points 5 months ago

And this is why speciesism is a root cause of so much human-on-human oppression. People unquestionably accept the premise that it's ok to exploit/murder/etc non-human sentient beings, so dehumanizing certain groups is incredibly effective at getting people to be ok with abusing them. If we rejected non-human abuse as well, there would be no incentive to dehumanize each other

[-] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I mean, you sort of have an argument there. But that's also a really huge leap: "If we can't stop people from refusing to value other people, let's just get them to value every living thing."

If you're at point A on the line, you're going to have to get to point B before you get to points C, D, or E.

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net -1 points 5 months ago

it depends how and why they're devaluing the other human. If they're basing it on dehumanization in order to exploit/abuse them, then that is in fact built on the underlying assumption that nonhumans are fair game to exploit/abuse, although they are also factually incorrect about the other humans humanity.

Strategically, it might be easier to get them to recognize that fact, or it might be easier to get them to accept compassion for all sentient beings and then point out the logical conclusions of that, it really depends on the person and situation, but I'm not talking strategy I'm just pointing out an often-unspoken root problem

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

there would be no incentive to dehumanize each other

Profit, religion, or just plain malice are all incentives

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net -2 points 5 months ago

Malice and disrespect would still be incentives, but how would it be profitable to dehumanize other humans if it didn't grant you any ability to exploit them more than you could exploit a "humanized human"? What reason would religion have (not that they'd need one to just make it up 🙄) to dehumanize other humans if it didn't imply your religious group is more valuable than the dehumanized humans (besides malice and disrespect)?

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Some people love feeling superior to others. That is one of the reasons the wealthy want servants.

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

I would argue that falls under malice and disrespect

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Nah, I only eat grazers, and actually don't devalue them for it. Vegans technically qualify but it's too much of a bother to make sure they're kosher.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

And then conservatives parrot "wow I can't believe you say mean words to me just because we have a tiny difference of opinion on whether or not you should be allowed to exist."

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Some things are not debatable. That's kinda what the Constitution is about.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

That's debatable. Anything that has to be manually enforced can't be assured unless there's someone to enforce it.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Its also debatable because amendments exist.

Amendments even exist to undo previous amendments.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

This would get likes on Lemmy and Truth Social.

Reminds me of this optical illusion except both answers to the illusion are correct.

[-] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago

Everything else aside, that is a hideous flag

[-] rdrunner@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

It really has become too much imo. It's not my flag so really I don't want it to change because of my thoughts, but I feel like objectively as a flag it has become way too complex. That and the fact that it's continuously changing still makes it all the more confusing.

[-] Ifera@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I am gay, and I approve this message.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago

I literally can’t tell the difference between these two extremists!

-centrists most of the time

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Seems like y'all hate centrists very much, so I'll just proudly say my centrist opinion here. Obviously they should have rights. No buts.

(Yes to butts)

[-] culprit@lemmy.ml -4 points 5 months ago

now imagine the Palestinian flag on that hat

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Now imagine a green penquin on a purple horse.

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