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[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 101 points 4 months ago

This is like astrology but somehow worse

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[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 78 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Wasn't the "sigma" personality just invented by incels when they realized that "being alpha" didn't work the way they thought it did and therefore they needed a new paradigm to keep their worldview from collapsing? Or am I remembering that wrong?

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So, to my knowledge, here is how this went.

They took the disproven wolf analogy literally and resulted in Alphas and Betas.

Alphas are basically confident, attractive, and charismatic. Alphas get and say what they want.

Betas basically lack at least 2 of these attributes. Betas were also initially 'nice guys' before that term got memed into oblivion, ie, they would be negotiable, willing to accept compromise.

Basically Alphas are bad boy / jocks and Betas are shy but polite nerds.

And for a while this permeated.

At some point, the communities using these terms more or less realized they were nearly all, in actuality, Betas.

Then, Gamma Delta and Omega all came about in roughly the same time, and the system was reworked.

Alpha: Confident Successful Leader

Beta: Cooperative Loyal Subservient

Gamma: More Confident than Alphas, but doesn't care to lead groups, therefore is aloof / adventurous.

Delta: Basically 'Enlightened Loner'. Someone who isn't interested in much socializing and has little or no outward personal connections. (Basically a nice way of framing being a NEET or hikikomori, a cope)

Omega: Someone who is so above all this nonsense they don't give a fuck, because they are so smart and successful without anyone's help.

Next we got Sigmas: Somehow even more OP than Omegas, Sigma males are intelligent, capable of manipulating any social hierarchy to their own ends, capable of doing basically anything but they are so cool they just do that shit when they feel like it and then vanish when bored. Almost every video about a Sigma Male will show John Wick.

As you say, sigmas came about within around 6 months of the term incel and incel communities / identity becoming decently established in internet culture. So yeah, this is an even harder cope than Deltas, as theyre now all acting like they could absolutely do x if I wanted to, I just don't feel like it.

Finally we now apparently have Zetas.

Zetas are apparently somehow even more OP than Sigmas, being a kind of hybrid of Alphas and Sigmas. Its something like... I am a highly conventionally successful person and am very skilled and talented and clever but whoo boy do I get tired of social interactions some times.

(In reality, this is basically anyone who has held down a decent job for a few years and is quite egotistical, but not constantly assertive or boastful).

Zetas are fairly new and still being actively reworked.

I think the idea of a Zeta Male can best be explained by the number of previously but no longer successful tech bros being laid off or fired ot divorced recently.

So basically its TechLead and people like him doing fanfiction of themselves.

So... Alphas, Betas and Zetas are very social. Deltas are not, Sigmas and Gammas are social occasionally and Omegas hate socializing but do it anyway.

Basically this shit reads like someone who has only watched action movies attempting to develop character archetypes, and that is largely because so much of this just is directly based off of action movies from the 80s onward and boys and men trying to find their favorite analogues.

[-] probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

I swear I would love to see the fallout of some of these morons trying to claim the Zeta symbol. Just imagine them not realizing other scum of the earth already tainted it.

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

also omegas can get pregnant I think. Oh sorry that was omegaverse fsnfiction.

[-] Donut@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago

I feel like this will be proven in 40 years in a research paper about male internet culture and this is the comment that started it

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 32 points 4 months ago

“sigma” is like sovereign citizen for pickup artists: it’s an ostensible cheat code to get stuff for free and avoid consequences, only one which doesn’t actually exist.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

I have two questions:

Can Sigma be gyatt?

Can Sigma have skibidi?

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[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago

Pretty much yea lul. They made it up cause they wanted to be extra special.

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago

I didn't realise you were actually serious.

Which one is a straight white average male who doesn't care about alpha males and occasionally defends minorities.

I'm guessing the alpha overlords consist that a "beta cuck"?

[-] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 4 months ago

Wanna know the funniest part? All this bullshit is based on a disproven theory about wolves, but then 4chan adopted as a kinda meme and then these fuckers took it seriously. Absolute fucking clown shit.

In my experience the people who describe people as "Alphas and Betas" are almost always described as "betas" by their own language.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 31 points 4 months ago

4chan adopted as a kinda meme and then these fuckers took it seriously

Sum up the last 8 years in one sentence, man that hits too hard

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

It’s wild to me. I remember. About 8 years ago in college talking to my roomie saying I heard the news lady try to talk about 4chan today. . .

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

Its wild to me that there is general knowledge of the term 'Boogaloo Boys', but ... even amongst left wingers who purport to study the movement ... somehow very few people seem to actually know its origin, which is of course a stupid 4chan joke turned into a meme taken waaaaay too seriously.

Its literally just the (thing happening again): Electric Boogaloo joke, in this case the recurring thing being 'Civil War'.

Which itself is a joke that is based on a laughably bad and obscure movie from 1984, Breakin'2: Electric Boogaloo, a sequel to a movie about break dancing.

I remember just casually being able to use (thing 2): Electric Boogaloo as a joke amongst other nerds for any topic a decade ago, and now you can't say Boogaloo because edgelords decided to actually try it so if you use the term around a 'political' zoomer or alpha, they think youre a terrorist.

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[-] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago

The fact that so much bullshit started out as a fucking meme on /b/ is proof there is no God and we have failed as a species.

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 8 points 4 months ago

Imagine shit posting so hard that you collapse the government...

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[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 60 points 4 months ago

So on their scale do the Omega males also become pregnant if banged by an Alpha?

Or do these people not even realize where their 'scale' actually came from?

[-] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 months ago

Omegaverse works are most frequently focused on male-male couples composed of an Alpha and an Omega,[6] though heterosexual Omegaverse works have been produced,[11] and by 2013, about 10% on Archive of Our Own were labeled male/female.[8]

The origin of the Omegaverse is typically attributed to the fandom surrounding the American television series Supernatural, as a fusion between werewolves and the male pregnancy subgenre of erotic fan fiction.

I read that wiki page and I can't help but come to the conclusion that primarily gay werewolf fanfic is being used to promote fascism?

I prefer my absurdist and surrealist humour to be works of fiction D:

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

To make penetration...easier, male Omegas often have self-lubricating anuses.

Fuck, I wish this was real, lol.

[-] samothtiger@pawb.social 12 points 4 months ago

Good news, it is real. All anuses self lubricate. They’re mucous to help the feces pass.

[-] cranberryjam@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago

Yeah, omegaverse fanfic is (one reason) why I would probably just burst out laughing if a guy tried to call himself alpha in front of me. I know too much, and and would be too tempted to break their little minds with an impromptu fandom history lecture. It predates destiel.

[-] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 4 points 4 months ago

Do I have to claim to be an alpha to get the lecture? :D

Does this apply to battle alphas, or only "alpha males?" (Little bit of Geneforge reference there :D)

[-] groucho@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 4 months ago

Wow. I had no idea. That's amazing.

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[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 35 points 4 months ago

the order they're displayed in is bothering me.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

I didn't even notice that Delta was out of order because of how much Sigma stood out.

[-] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 months ago

You’re missing ligma males

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago

It's spelled λigma.

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 23 points 4 months ago

Why do other greek letters not get males? Did they do something wrong?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 4 months ago

Haven't been discovered yet. CERN is working on a new large hardon collider to potentially discover newly theorized elemaletal particles

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[-] authorinthedark@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago

I'm a PI male

[-] acausal_masochist@awful.systems 4 points 4 months ago

I've met some phi males in my time.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 4 points 4 months ago

Media never used them to sound cool.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 18 points 4 months ago

I can't fathom the mind that would even want to divide people up this way.

[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

The kind of mind that seeks to be better than others at all costs

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[-] groucho@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 months ago

Why do they all look so angry?

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 38 points 4 months ago

it's the only emotion men are allowed to have lol

[-] TehPers@beehaw.org 23 points 4 months ago

As a man, I diasagree. We are also allowed to be hungry and horny.

[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Reminds me of Homer Simpson asking, "is drunk an emotion?"

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 8 points 4 months ago

Isn't that already contained in being angry about why no one cooked you dinner yet and being angry about why women don't want to have sex with you all the time? /s

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[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 8 points 4 months ago

Wait, are we allowed an emotion??

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[-] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 8 points 4 months ago

They all just finished brunch together and now they're all crammed into the same elevator, trying not to shart in front of the alpha.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 15 points 4 months ago

I do love that they're sorted left to right by the Latin alphabet rather than the Greek one

[-] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 11 points 4 months ago

Time really is a circle, humorism is in again.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Based on dress, I'd say:

Alpha: Private Equity Trader, Financier
Beta: Athlete, Footballer
Delta: Mechanic, Plumber
Gamma: Poet, Musician
Omega: Technician, coder
Sigma: Hitman, Organized Crime Goon

[-] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Alpha: C Suite exec, pays for male prostitutes

Beta: Athlete "it's just hazing bro" rapist

Delta: Everyman Thespian, sleeps his way to the lead role

Gamma: Barista, gets raped by the Beta

Omega: IT guy for Alphas company, knows where all the bodies are hidden

Sigma: Backstreet fuckBoy

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 12 points 4 months ago

Can we try to not joke about rape? Thanks 💜

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