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[-] lawrence@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago

In Interstellar movie I almost had a syncope when Dr. Romilly explains how a wormhole works to Cooper as if he were a 5-year-old child and not a former NASA astronaut.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 4 months ago

I have been in the room where seasoned doctors are talking to junior doctors like this, I think its normal. Sometimes people that are really smart can dumb down their subject of expertise in a way that an outsider might seem like they are talking down to someone

[-] BearGun@ttrpg.network 26 points 4 months ago

i think it's partly because it's often very easy for experts to overestimate what non-experts know, even people with some knowledge in the field (relevant xkcd as usual), so it's probably easier to just dumb it down as much as you possibly can. That way you're sure most people can actually understand.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 22 points 4 months ago

There's probably an explaining shit to the expert TV Tropes page.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

I'd look for it, but I wouldn't be able to escape the gravitational pull of that site for several days..

[-] srasmus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thanks! I'll take your word for it 😁

[-] Naz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

She was actually explaining it to the movie going audience, in a break of the fourth wall indirectly, but y'know

;)

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

syncope

You're not going to believe the name of Christopher Nolan's production company.

Syncopy.

[-] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

I was a former 5-year-old child.

[-] 2deck@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Do NASA astronauts have a course on wormholes? You know.. just in case.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago

"Libera te tutemet ex inferis."

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

where we’re going, we wont need eyes to meme

[-] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago
[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

It's cute how humans always think they are capable of explaining such things as these.

I 100% support theoretical investigation, and the pursuit of scientific examination... But we don't KNOW a whole lot about wormholes. We can only GUESS based on visual evidence.

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

If we're really being pedantic, that's technically true about everything. For all you know you're hallucinating me right now

[-] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 5 points 4 months ago

I knew it!

I am the Boltzmann brain!

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

No, it's different. With you, there's at least something that we observe that we might be hallucinating.

With worm holes, we're taking mathematical equations that were modelled to reflect what we've observed of reality and then we're pushing them to extreme cases where they're likely to not anymore model reality correctly, and that is where we're seeing the theoretical possibility of worm holes. No one has observed nor hallucinated worm holes.

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

What visual evidence of wormholes? If I'm not mistaken, they're purely theoretical objects at this point.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Thanks, Stargate & Stranger Things!

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure this explanation came from Event Horizon first.

[-] PrimeErective@startrek.website 12 points 4 months ago

More like A Wrinkle in Time, the 1962 book

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Alas, I have not read that book.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

It is by no means an exhaustive list. Those are just the ones that sprang to mind.

I wonder if anyone has posted a supercut of this trope on YouTube...

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago

I think remembering that, at least in movies, it originated with Event Horizon is critical because it is the only one that takes into account any downside to transdimensional travel...and what a downside it was.

I will always mourn the loss of any possible director's cut of Event Horizon where the footage was so insanely over the top that the execs almost shit their pants.

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago
[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

It would have been a classic for the ages. The spike through the mouth alone is enough to make it live in infamy.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I wonder if the movie still holds up. I haven't seen it in 20 years, but it was the most terrifying movie I had seen up until that point, and for a long time afterwards too.

[-] rasensprenger@feddit.org 12 points 4 months ago

I don't like this explanation, because if you don't know what wormholes are before, you might think wormoles are represented by the hole stabbed through the paper by the pencil.

Correctly stretching the paper to make a 2D wormhole is hard, but maybe you should just use a bagel or something

[-] Promethiel@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

People are supposed to include the fact that the pencil can go through because (layman terminology abuse ahead) of the "shape" the space-time topology is presenting (or I guess being induced to present as, if Sci-fi hypothetical) before you get to the explanation of the pencil as craft/observer and how the hole is how that shortened path through the wormhole appears from frames of reference not the pencil.

I like the bagel idea but then you have to hold it all horizontal while explaining so they don't see the hole too early and you're then just left intently staring at your audience across a bagel held at eye height like a slowly hungering loon. Or so I've heard.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Do the bottom one first. Then as next step, do the math of singularities with a paper cylinder and a paper cone, falling through curved spacetime. That'll take a little more time and effort but you might just start blowing their minds a little deeper with the same pencil and paper folded in 3D.

[-] credo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Pfft, I got it the first time.

The “math” is repeated with horizontal symmetry too; these explanations are the same.

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