Iran Can Produce Fissile Material For Bomb In 'One Or Two Weeks': Blinken (www.barrons.com)

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 72 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Remember when Obama got Iran to give up refining nuclear material then Trump fucked it up horribly?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

And Biden did not go back to the deal. Both Biden and Trump serve Israel

[-] homura1650@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Biden tried to restart the deal back in 2021, and has been trying ever since.

However, it turns out that the US is not the only party involved in international treaties. We can't just pick up the ball and go home mid game, then come back in a year with a new coach and expect everyone to continue playing like nothing happened

The original deal was a difficult achievement on its own. Now, we need to not only repeat that, but also deal with the fact that Iran does not trust us to follow through with our end of the deal. Overcoming that needs good negotiation, and a lot of concessions we did not want to make.

This is why administrations of both parties have historically upheld deals made by the opposing party that they didn't like. Unilaterally breaking deals every 4 years because of who wins an election makes the US a non-credible partner in negotiations. You can't just wave a wand and fix that.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 10 points 4 months ago

Biden did not have the option after Trump betrayed them. What are you talking about???

[-] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Why not? "Trump was an anomaly, if you agree to it we'll make a new binding agreement that's better for you than the previous one and this time by law there's self-imposed consequences if we renege a second time." Are you saying they wouldn't take that?

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 0 points 4 months ago

To be fair when Trump is quite pissibky about to be elected again and his entire party seems to have bought into his general way of doing things, I don't think Iran would be wrong to doubt that claim of him being an anomaly. How would Iran meaningfully enforce penalties upon an America with a second Trump presidency, or a DeSantis presidency, or a Vance presidency?

[-] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, Iran probably wouldn't believe them, but if they get some money or something else from it that they can eat until the USA reneges then that's good enough. And probably whatever penalty will actually be enforced, the USA likes some decorum. If it isn't enforced then it's a good PR for Iran and anyone who didn't act as a guarantor for USA.

I'm arguing against the user saying Biden was left with no choice. I think Biden's regime had a good route towards fixing the mistake, and chose not to take it. I'm trying to say 'Trump' isn't to blame, but the USA, including the USA of today.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Look, it's the bi-annual "Iran is 6 months away from getting nukes" headline. I wonder which intelligence service came up with this (again).

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Some analyst has a repeating calendar event labeled IRAN NUKE STORY

[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 31 points 4 months ago

Thanks trump.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago

man even americans are starting to regurgitate this isreali party line; gazans are so fucked.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 15 points 4 months ago

Is it an Israeli line? I don't doubt that Israel says it, but it seems to me like Iran developing nukes is a pretty rational response to America ditching the agreement. I certainly don't like a government like Iran's having those weapons, but it's very understandable for it to want them and the country has the capacity to make it happen

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes it's an Israeli line. (This was from like 20 years ago.)

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 4 months ago

Got to love the iconography of a bomb from the 19th century.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 6 points 4 months ago

Doesn't that turn of phrase imply that it's untrue (or at least misrepresentative) though? It's not meaningfully "an Israeli line" if it's actually just true

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I certainly don’t like a government like Iran’s having those weapons

It is not about you
Israel is worse and has nuclear weapons, the US already used them twice and Ted Cruz and other US politicians regularly threatens to nuke the Middle East
Countries in the region have a right to protect themselves from foreign powers

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 4 months ago

1 - I didn't say it was? I'm allowed to express an opinion without expecting the world to conform to it

2 - Disliking Iran's government doesn't imply liking opposed governments

3 - They do, I agree

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Broken clocks can still be right.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-uranium-enrichment-germany-israel-c9b3669a7721bd8929d465117c81b70f

Inspectors from the UN found enrichment activity was starting to exceed 84% where 90% is the target for bomb making. 60% is the level they are attempting to enforce.

Also this is February 2023, so you’d suspect they’ve made more progress since then.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The Middle East is developing deterrence against foreign threats right before us and the US can’t stop it

If Blinken doesn’t like it, he can always start with his bosses at Tel Aviv and their nuclear weapons

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

This brings me back to the Bush years.

Also makes me thing of the movie ‘Wag the Dog.’

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

Cool, how industrious of them!

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

Trying to get us into another war eh

[-] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Oh great. Starting a war is a classic move for embattled presidents

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

good, Iran needs nukes. especially when a significant portion of the US government holds the opinion "we should nuke Iran".

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I mean if you were the Iranian leader and a) saw what the US did to Iraq and Libya and b) saw the total impunity that Israel has in the West to conduct mass killings on civilians, wouldn't you want a nuclear deterrent?