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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 148 points 2 months ago

The weird part is everyone forgetting in a week or two...

The media is on the side of the wealthy, because that's the whole reason they bought the media in the first place.

This isn't the first time, been happening since newspapers were cutting edge. It's the natural result of deregulating journalism. So ething both parties do at almost every opportunity.

All the shit going on now with the media can be traced back to Slick Willy in the 90s.

https://truthout.org/articles/democracy-in-peril-twenty-years-of-media-consolidation-under-the-telecommunications-act/

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago

It's not like the Clintons are poor though

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

But her supporters were, VS the billionaires class backing the Republicans

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I dunno. Between Hilary emails and Steele Dossier, I feel like MSM is afraid of being used in manipulation schemes.

Whether by foreign agents or even Trump campaign leaking information themselves, baiting media to release a bland report full of already public information just so he can change the narrative back to Government and MSM colluding against him or whatever BS he wants to spew.

If there is any little reported or good stuff, they can now just research and find their own story and leave out the whole "hack "

Robert could have dumped this stuff anywhere.

[-] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

It baffles me that Americans don’t properly fund their public broadcaster

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Can probably be traced back to the Hearsts in the 1940s.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 2 months ago

I'm perpetually out of the loop. Did Trump's emails get leaked?

[-] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 115 points 2 months ago

If I’m tracking properly, they got hacked and then the internal data was given to the media, and the media hasn’t released anything. Because it benefits them to support Trump.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 months ago

That's wild. Any idea what media outlet specifically it was leaked to?

[-] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago

Politico, the New York Times, and the Washington Post it seems.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-vance-leak-media-wikileaks-e30bdccbdd4abc9506735408cdc9bf7b

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

I wonder why it wasn’t sent to wikileaks?

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Isn't Wikileaks Russian?

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago

So they were already cc’d on them.

[-] ealoe@ani.social 4 points 2 months ago

Yes and no; technically they're an independent entity but they've been used as useful idiots by Russian intelligence so many times at this point they're effectively Russian

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Cuz they would have sat on it

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

But I thought it was Iran that hacked Trump. Surely they have media that can make this info available.

No, that makes sense. They have the time and energy to hack the Trump campaign email servers. But somehow lack the ability to make that information public. Yeah, that makes much more sense.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Yesterday there was speculation that it was an internal leak, not a foreign country. Remember that Trump's entire staff lies constantly.

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[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, they specifically didn’t get leaked. And that’s the story. Trump’s team got hacked, and the hackers sent the emails to the news outlets. The outlets protected Trump, and refused to publish the emails.

Which is in stark contrast to what happened when Hillary’s emails got sent to the news outlets. The outlets were clambering to be the first to publish them.

Almost as if the outlets have a strong bias…

[-] FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 months ago

Do you have a link to where the news outlets published them?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

They didn't, WikiLeaks did

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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lock them emails up came the cry from the C suite and the editor asked what he should run instead.

I worked in small and medium sized print media for a few decades. Very loosely around 1998 you’d still see the newest, greenest, most eager-to-please editor be able to tell the owner or C’s to fuck right off if there was an attempt to break the wall between the money and the news. It was just assumed and known really - because while few examples happened, for the most part management or money would never even think of doing it.

By the early 2000s, while print was still king and only just preparing to completely fuck up internet advertising and kill the industry, the wall cracked a bit. “It’s the beginning of the end” many would say while others said they were just ads on the front above the fold. The former was correct.

And now we have a media landscape run by the money, for the money.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago

WIKILEAKS released Hilary's emails. Not the media.

WikiLeaks is a shell now, almost non-existent. For years it's been little more than a Twitter account, but even that hasn't posted since June.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Much like wikileaks, media outlets claim to be impartial third parties and have annoynmous drop boxes for whistleblowers.

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[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Jesus Christ, I can't believe how dense people are being about this. First of all, they weren't Hillary Clinton's emails, they were John Podesta's emails. Second of all, and more importantly, the, "Mainstream Political Media," didn't publish those emails, Wikileaks did.

In 2016, Russian hackers got Podesta's emails, Wikileaks published them, and the media reported on them once they were already exposed. In 2024, Wikileaks is functionally dead, so Iranian hackers sent them directly to mainstream media outlets. Mainstream outlets don't want to deal with the legal issues associated with releasing hacked information, so they sit on them.

This isn't some conspiracy by the media to ensure Trump wins. This is a direct result of 20+ of allowing our government to persecute whistleblowers and leakers.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Was trump found to be running a private email server for government classified business? Because that's what the issue with Hilary was. As much as I despise trump, the situation isn't equivalent. Also, WikiLeaks leaked Hillary's emails, not the media. Basically everything stated in the original post is incorrect.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 35 points 2 months ago

Nah, he just had a bunch of classified government documents stashed in a bathroom.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Which he should have gone to prison for.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago

Right, but that's not related to these emails as far as anyone knows.

If I recall that case was dismissed without prejudice, which means they can fix the bullshit issue Judge Cannon came up with to delay things, re-indict him and ideally convict his ass. Can't use executive privilege as a defense (no matter how strained) for shit you do after you leave office. That'll kick up a mountain of idiots on Xitter screaming about "double jeopardy" despite not knowing how any of that works though.

Assuming of course he doesn't get reelected and pardon himself or some equally absurd bullshit.

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[-] SLfgb@feddit.nl 18 points 2 months ago

Like I said to someone else here already:

False. The Clinton emails were first released under FOIA by the State Department, not by WikiLeaks. You're mixing it up with the Podesta and DNC email archives, which incidentally contained dirt on Trump as well.

Over the next several months, the State Department completed production of 30,068 emails, which were released in 14 batches, with the final batch released on February 29, 2016. Both the Wall Street Journal and WikiLeaks independently set up search engines for anyone who would like to search through the Clinton emails released by the State Department.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

If Trump knew how to use email, you know he'd be sending classified information from his yahoo account.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

You're correct about Wikileaks, but you are conflating the scandal around Hillary's emails (she maintained a private email server while she was Secretary of State, and deleted many of those emails when she was meant to retain them) with the Podesta emails (which the user in the image incorrectly identifies as Hillary's emails). The hacking of Podesta's emails is actually very similar to the hack of the Trump campaign, except there's no Wikileaks or equivalent organization willing to publish them this time.

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[-] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

LoL, for as much as you "despise trump", you sure feel compelled to "defend" him by creating your own false equivalence, getting the facts wrong, and by ignoring the entirety of actions Trump and his family committed while in office. It's almost like you don't really despise him at all...

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I'm not defending him, I'm saying we need to be better. There are enough valid criticisms, like millions of them. We don't need to make false equivalencies.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Eh, that's about par for the course at this point...

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Idiot Junior tweeted his own e-mails where the campaign arranged Russian interference for sanctions relief, and it got lost under the ten thousand other high crimes, treasonous acts, and outright efforts toward a coup d'etat.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Any news that doesn’t publish his emails is not fair or balanced.

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