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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Wild isn't it

Edit:

Ok I misread the data but I am leaving this post. I compared Linux desktop share to Firefox all platform share

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[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Statcounter does not say that. This post is straight up misinformation.

  • Firefox (all platforms): 2.74%

  • Linux (all platforms): 1.61%

  • Firefox (desktop): 6.64%

  • Linux (desktop): 4.45%

Firefox has 50-70% more users than Linux.

[-] Morphit@feddit.uk 17 points 3 months ago

Is OP adding the Android share to Linux? That would certainly do it.

  • Android (all platforms): 45.19%

Only makes sense if you know their definition of 'Linux' though.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

True, that could be it.

Although then the "Wild isn't it" statement really isn't wild at all - Android is by far and away the most popular OS, not far off double Windows. Of course if you lump that in with Linux, Linux would be more popular than Firefox.

[-] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Thank Gods! Anyone using Linux should be running some version of Firefox.

[-] rikudou 1 points 3 months ago

What? Linux on server should definitely be higher.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't believe anybody mentioned Linux on servers.

I only mentioned "all platforms" (that statcounter checks anyway), and desktop.

[-] rikudou 1 points 3 months ago

I assumed "all platforms" would include a server.

[-] kenkenken@fedia.io 34 points 3 months ago

Right now statcounter shows:

Firefox: 2.74% Linux: 1.61%

[-] JustMarkov@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And even if you look at the desktop only, Firefox marketshare still will be higher:

Firefox: 6.64% Linux: 4.45%

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 3 months ago

Browsers are mostly identified by user-agent, or not? If so it isn't surprising because people like to fake that. In the least to shut down such silly messages like "please use chrome/edge"

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 39 points 3 months ago

The number of people that do this is not going to even remotely shift the usage share percentage.

[-] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 11 points 3 months ago

OS is also identified by user agent, so it's no less vulnerable to fake agents. In any case, I'd wager the vast majority of users even on Linux use unaltered agents, though this isn't something that can be backed up one way or another because there are no numbers for fake agents.

[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 7 points 3 months ago

If more than 0.1% of people do that I'd be flabbergasted

[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

I'd believe it. I've had hundreds of Linux servers that don't have any desktop Gui at all deployed on them.

Linux desktop users make up an absolutely tiny fraction of Linux installs.

[-] Morphit@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

I don't think that's what 'market share' is trying to represent, but without any context - yeah. You can lump in android phones and set-top boxes and signage and industrial controllers while you're at it.

[-] rikudou 1 points 3 months ago

Nah, when you include Android, you're doing it wrong, they only use the kernel.

[-] Morphit@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Linux is the kernel.

You can define terms however you like and treating Android as Linux is a choice - though I would agree - not a good one. It depends what point you're trying to make. I can't tell what point the OP is trying to make. By most reasonable definitions, there are more people browsing the web with Firefox than browsing with Linux so the title is wrong.

Ah - and I see the OP has edited to say they just misread the stats. So there was no point.

[-] rikudou 1 points 3 months ago

I mean, maybe I'm gonna sound like that weird copypasta, but when people say Linux they mean GNU/Linux and stuff inspired by it, like Alpine. On desktop also X11 or Wayland and the usual set of tools.

Android is neither of that, so no, when you say Android is Linux, you're wrong, because you're ignoring what people mean by saying something is Linux.

If you truly want to mention Linux with Android, you can say that Android uses a Linux kernel (heavily modified, one might add).

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 months ago

In which country? For me the global stats and my country's (NL) stats show otherwise.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

From a very quick glance at Statcounter, I can only see India where OP's statement is true, with Linux having an extremely high desktop market share there relative to other markets.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I never trust stat counters of any kind with linux. I often see stuff like that plastered on my whitelist firewall, like bumper insects on a high speed summer drive through Florida. There is usually some other stat of leet users. That's Linux too. Then there are those times when I change my browser agent just for fun.

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 4 points 3 months ago

On a random note, I once talked about Firefox with a friend, and he texted me a few weeks later about trying it. More successful than my Linux spreading, although part of it was he used a Surface and having gone through the pain on my Surface Go myself, I wasn’t sure I could impart that suffering to someone else.

[-] letbelight@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Firefox is suffering if one use M365 online daily...

Only Google workspace great on Firefox ootb..

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