Here's the thing. If the plastic is not microwave safe, then it is not any-sort-of-heat safe. The microwave is simply a heating device. The method is different but at the end of day, it vibrates molecules to heat em up.
Most people wouldn't put plastic on a stovetop or in an oven to begin with. Where else is plastic typically heated with food in it?
Most fast food restaurants and food processing plants. Hot dogs in the plastic casing as they are heated in the factory. Fast food (taco places have meat bags that they heat up before cutting open for use).
Plenty of sit down restaurants too. Your side of veggies or mash potatoes came in a plastic container with butter and salt added, and is then microwaved. Nicer places will often finish some of those sides on a grill or stovetop, but you already got plastic'd
When you put hot food in it.
Maybe in a sous vide? But a separate issue will be already-quite-hot food being put into plastic. Think they let your takeout noodles/soup cool before putting it in a plastic container?
Baby bottles. We use a bottle warmer that heats the bottle with steam, but yeah, I'd say breast milk/formula counts. That being said, I don't think I've ever seen bottles not rated as being safe for bottle warmers? And you'd never put a bottle in a microwave (process is too harsh on breast milk and consequently ruins much of its nutritional value, not sure about formula).
Don't bother. The people who believe this shit, want to
I've switched to mostly glass, metal, and wood kitchenware, but even those have plastic lids. I try to get paper milk jugs, which I thought were lined with wax, but apparently are plastic? It's almost impossible to get away from this shit.
If it makes you feel any better the milk, and all the foods you eat, already contain micro-plastics 👍
gee thanks I do feel better
Paper stuff that is meant to hold liquids will always be just a plastic bag with carton structure. Wax would be fine if you were filling and storing the liquid in your own home. But wax lined paper would never survive the shortest of transportation. Completely non-feasible for industrial scale agriculture. Soft drinks in cans also have plastic linings, metals are more resistant but would also eventually corrode in the midterm.
Why? Like, is this equivilant to 'smoking cigarettes will kill you?' Or more, 'going within ten metres of a running automobile will kill you?' Because stress and anxiety will kill you dead too. So...
I suspect the next generation will be horrified that people ever cooked in plastic. Or ate or drank out of plastic. They'll think of it the same way we think of lead pipes now.
The evidence of terrible health effects of plastic seems to be adding up very fast. Pthalates, PFAS, and microplastics all seem to be implicated in the increasing rates of ill health, cancer and cardiovascular disease.
I never put this kind of plastic on the microwave. But I also worry about paper plates, which have some kind of polyethylene coating that is really really hard to find any info about online. Ive fucking eaten cheese that has been boiled on a "paper" plate, only to find that those plates were coated in some kind of polymer.
By the way, the insides of aluminum cans are coated in plastic.
Sweet dreams!
There is plastic in everything you consume now. You can’t get away from it unless you retreat to the wilderness.
Uh, they found a plastic bag in the Mariana Trench. No place is free of it, anymore.
Nope, plastic there as well
I’d like to know if sous vide is safe though, please? I’ve been doing that for years…
This article focuses on microwaving, but the news about sous vide isn't great:
"This study proved that the sous vide method causes polymer degradation at high temperatures and longer time periods": https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36398752/
We all are, my friend. We all are.
Don't eat at Olive Garden or really any fast casual. They all hold items in plastic in hot water.
While I cannot read the article, the abstract does not describe an issue of microplastics transferring from the sous vide container to the fish, rather the effect of the high temps over longer time on the microplastics already present in the fish.
I expected this and I’m still mad
Edit: SOMEONE TELL GUGA
Get thee some silicone bags, completely reusable and plastic free.
Wasn’t aware of this, thanks
But all my foods have microplastics in it
I just bought some new plastic food storage containers that I like.
Be sure to microwave everything you eat in it, according to the article. (I may have misunderstood the point of the article)
I use plastic bowls in microwaves all the time. In fact every single day. At this rate I'm going to turn into a auton from doctor who 🤣.
Sorry but pizza rolls in a microwave are just too damn good! Fuck the oven!
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