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[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 112 points 3 months ago

He should have listened to them, if even WSB comes together to tell you how stupid that idea is, you know you've got a real stinker on your hands.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 50 points 3 months ago

19 year old doesn't have a lot of personal savings anyway not a big deal Time to start saving again. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[-] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 3 months ago

That person had 400$ and now owes 56k

[-] fake@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

$400 left.Who knows how much he started with initially.

E: started with about $7k

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Where the hell is a teenager finding 7k? That takes some bootstraps pulling.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 19 points 3 months ago

I don't know how this one got $7,000 but I do know that some teenagers have jobs and it isn't very hard to save money when your needs are taken care of due to living with your parents.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

I had about 8k saved up when I was 17, mostly for college.

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

There are a lot of upper middle-class kids who start out adulthood with tens of thousands of dollars.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can make $7k by 19 relatively easily if you never spend money on stuff and your family is large and generous with the birthday cards

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If you're working full time and still living with your parents then $7k is easy to save up.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's what we call an ouchie.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure that can be cleared with a bankruptcy. Considering a 19 year old isn't likely to have any non-exempt assets, they can go bankrupt with basically no penalty other than having a bankrupcy on their record for the next 7 years.

[-] atocci@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

If I understand correctly, they can sell the shares they were forced to buy and get back most of the $56,000 they owe.

[-] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 months ago

When you short a stock, you borrow a stock, then sell it, then you buy it back at a (ideally) lower price. Then, you have to give back the stock plus interest. This person can’t sell the stock because they have to give it back. It wasn’t theirs to begin with. They were just borrowing it.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Yeah, but the big number (-$56k) is not from a short, it's from a call getting assigned. He sold it naked (didn't have shares to back it) it expired ITM, and he has to cover. The broker is going to give the shares to the call buyer, and OP is out maybe a couple hundred bucks whatever the difference between spy close price, and the strike he sold *100 shares depending on what SPY closed at that day. He's not -$56 k on that trade.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago

He's in a better financial position than I was coming out of college. And it sounds like we both got a valuable education for our money.

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[-] atocci@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

The problem with options trading is you can lose more money than you invest.

[-] Githyanki 4 points 3 months ago

They are betting that they can make more than they are investing, with the downside of losing more than they are investing.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago

That has got to be the stupidest reasoning for doing something on the stock market that I have ever heard

[-] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago

Then this person has won r/wallstreetbets, because the entire sub is a meme

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Making any kind of profit on this sub is seen as a tragedy

[-] blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Wait till you hear about the gourds...

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 months ago

Isn't it the risk of trying to make money with money? It's like gambling. If you don't want to risk losing that money, don't play that game.

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 26 points 3 months ago

The thing is that what this guy did is absolutely gambling. Investments are gambles but the risk is low. This was just putting everything on 00 and when it didn't pay out, he got as much credit from the casino he could and bet again.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

it's not like gambling. it's gambling. except more stupid because they shorted fucking copper based on their opinion on medals.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago

At least with normal stocks you have an asset at the end. This was options trading though lol. And shorting, which is like the most risky thing. You have finite possible returns but infinite possible losses.

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

19 years old. Life savings. 🙄

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i thought it was code for daddy's money but apparently it was 400 bucks.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Boomers keep telling me I should have put $20 in my savings account with every paycheck starting at age 18 and I'd be able to retire at 65. Dude was not going to be able to retire at 65 apparently.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

the fun part of it is that a combination of inflation and stagnating wages means $20 keeps getting smaller in terms of value but also keeps becoming a larger part of your disposable income.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He had $400 left in his account before the margin call. The trouble with options is that they can be very highly leveraged, meaning you're trading on credit, and you can lose a lot of money really fast (and likewise, gain a lot of money really fast). Most brokerages don't even let you trade on options until you can prove you have knowledge of how the market works. So the kid is probably smart, but like many smart 19 year olds, not smart enough.

This guy owes the brokerage $56k.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

400 bucks you don't owe for rent is a lot when you're 19.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How can copper possibly go up in price, its a soft metal, low tensile strength, not resisyent to acids, tarnishes easily. Literally useless except for, I dont know, pots or whatever! Literally nothing else in the world uses copper!

  • This guy
[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago
[-] Lupus@feddit.org 21 points 3 months ago

So probably a fake story is what I'm reading?

[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i wouldn't outright call it fake,
at worst its misleading.

he misunderstood his account info and didn't loose as much as he thinks.

wouldnt be the first make that mistake.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Oh shit, that reminded me of that guy who thought he owed something like 90k and killed himself only for the account to be settled the next day and he had earned money.

[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago

that was exactly the same issue.

thats why the comments are so uncharacteristically helpful and serious for r/wsb

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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

If he's making that mistake he should not be trading lol

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago
[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Nanni gonna write a yelp review

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

So he expected something like: "Those bronze medals look awful! Time to rip out all that copper piping and wiring from my home and dump it on the market!"

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

God I miss old WSB the memes were so spicy and loss porn was better than pornhub. I'll never forget that kid that got $800,000 loan on futures only to go like -$1.5Mn in debt lmfaoooooo.

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Oh no!

Anyway…

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

That’s about what I’d expect from wsb. Delusions of grandeur combined with complete failure to understand the modern world.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Bet on copper! I am not an advice person.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago
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