Yeah let's maybe hold off on the victory laps until after the election. This thing is on a knife's edge still and we got a lot of work to do still to get her over the line.

I was going to bet a large amount of cash that Biden would lose. We hit rock bottom and all data proved Biden was at best at Jimmy Carter's level of performance with added baggage like age-related risk. I said then and say now that anyone would be better. Whether that was Harris or whether that was by an open convention -- which itself could've been exciting and similarly sucked away all attention from Trump -- either way.

At the end of the day all the data convinced not just me but countless Democratic representatives and eventually Biden's own campaign staff and advisors. Thank fuck he did the obviously right thing.

What I got wrong: I didn't believe Harris would work out this well, and in fact I was hoping for Whitmer among others if I'm honest... But I'm happily proven wrong.

I was also wrong about the VP pick. I wanted Kelly but Walz is the whole package.

I knew that Harris would be a better candidate than Biden.

You’d have to be proverbially blind to not have seen it.

Did I know it would be this wildly successful? Not so much. I knew it could be, and I knew Harris would be better than Biden.

because all available history and information basically assured that it was

That's actually just not true. It's pretty interesting, but the main reason incumbents have such a high chance of re-election is because exactly this happened with most incumbents that had a low chance already: They got cut out by the party. So there has always been natural cherry-picking that only the "good" incumbents went on to actually be the nominee again (and therefore had a disproportionally high rate of winning).

Although I originally also thought otherwise, when looking at all the data, this was the rational & correct choice.

womp womp i knew it. something about having a cadaver up on stage just spoke to me…

doesn't mean people were wrong

This monologue of yours doesn't mean they weren't.

Just say "I am not going to apologize and move on..."

The only reservation I had was that the democrats would pick a worse candidate. Because democrats always do that shit.

There's still plenty of time for you to become a Russian bot. Never give up on your dreams!

I guess the Russian bots are downvoting you.

I got so much shit on Lemmy for saying Biden should drop after his debate. Was literally called a Russian bot multiple times.

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Questioning him in public forums felt like it would’ve helped that very bad man. I’m glad the Joenors applied pressure - that’s very appropriate, e.g. donors calling out that garbage debate behind closed doors.

my hand fucking shattered against the ceiling after reading this comment

I mean we should be questioning Trump's aptitude every chance we get for the same reasons they were doing it - it makes him look weak, it generates more discussion and therefore more doubt, and it drives down voter enthusiasm.

thx for being a real one

sorry for the L, but i think we’re both glad you’re taking it :)

Thank you. I was in the same boat. Did I want Biden President again? Not really. But there were no alternatives at the time and I thought that Harris wasn't exactly getting the recognition when people wanted to just drop Biden.

I'm glad I'm wrong about staying with Biden. I'm happier that Harris has taken up the mantle. I just hope that it's enough to drive turnout.

Yeah, this is the correct take here. Trying to pretend that this was the plan all along is disingenuous. There was no plan other than 'Biden bad'.

The fact that Kamala Harris has clutched momentum and has good odds came out of literally nowhere, as did Harris herself.

It also can't be ignored that the 'Biden bad' message was being pushed hard artificially by billionaires and Russia, which didn't exactly fill a lot of Democrats with hope that it was a realistic option.

We lucked out.

Absolutely grossly cruel about their disdain to anyone disagreeing and now just fully onboard without so much as a glance back at the wake of abuse left.

Honestly the Democrats can be exactly the same kind of bullies for like minded party thinking as the Republicans its just their shit apparently doesn't stink quite as much to have to take notice of it.

right like if you weren’t mean about it, no need to apologize. but there was so much shit being thrown around it was quite sad actually

Drop that ass and let that booty shake. Let's go Joe!

Kamala Harris hasn't won, no. But I think she's already achieved enough momentum that if she loses, it will be safe to say that Joe Biden would have also lost.

as we all know i am the only correct person on this site