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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by wesker@lemmy.sdf.org to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

Will it be effective?

SpoilerNo, it was not very effective.


EDIT: The banning event continues. Please consult the modlog to observe.

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=7121342

If you scroll down to about a day ago, you might be able to observe an emerging behavior from this mod.


EDIT 2: The mod in question moderates a total of 108 Lemmy communities. How deep does this conspiracy run? Is this mod a lost Redditor? More to come!


EDIT 3: The mod has now removed my comment all together, one might assume because it was still receiving upvotes in the 2 hours following my ban. Are there similarities here to Watergate? You be the judge!


EDIT 4: The mod in question has now been removed as a mod of the !vegan@lemmy.world community, as a result of their abuse of power.

https://lemmy.world/post/19731457

This was their response:


EDIT 5: This will be my final update, since as far as I see it, the issue this thread focuses on has been resolved. To quote Beaver herself in a very ironic comment she made directed towards someone else:

Clearly this was all just a case of...

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[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 87 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Mods 108 communities?

What we have here, sir and/or madam, is a Reddit mod. Excessive modding, a smell you can't quite place, same techniques.

Gotta say: I was hoping we wouldn't be followed by that type.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure the Reddit mods were the biggest group of complainers against Reddits API changes, since they used third party apps in order to mod.

So it stands to reason a ginormous group of them switched to Lemmy and had plenty of free time to mod there as well.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 19 points 2 months ago

Out of those, less then 10 are active

https://lemmy.ca/u/beaver

There are plenty of LW mods who mod a higher number of active communities

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[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 83 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh boy, it looks like they're posting the "you should feed your obligate carnivorous pets a fully vegan diet" garbage again.

Edit:

Trying to paint your special diet group as a minority group is kinda fucking offensive. People get murdered, raped, beaten, abused, fired, divorced, jailed, tortured, sent to re-education camps, and so on, for being black, or LGBT, or Hispanic, or Muslim, or whatever. Vegans though? No. Unlike the other examples, vegans don't get murdered for something you were born with; they don't have entire continents who want to murder them. They just get ridiculed, and tbh, nowadays most of the ridicule is due to their garbage attitudes and nothing to do with the diet itself.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

The modlog should at least contain an identifier of the mod. Maybe not a link to their account but something that can be tracked across communities. To see who is abusing their power.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 34 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty it's Beaver. I'm now banned (and I appear to be blocked by Beaver as well) and I'm pretty sure the only recent direct interaction I've had with the community was downvoting the recent articles about how vegan diets are okay for carnivorous pets.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

Yeah, beaver is a bit batshit lol

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

They went batshit with the meme posting last night and the threads were mostly shitting on them. They are full tilt.

Yup just checked, banned.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Modlog does contain the info, it's just not displayed on the website. You can get the full data from lemmy API

Example:

{
            "mod_ban_from_community": {
                "id": 19651,
                "mod_person_id": 7121342,
                "other_person_id": 8043739,
                "community_id": 1309,
                "reason": "Rule 5",
                "banned": true,
                "expires": "2024-09-19T21:03:47Z",
                "when_": "2024-09-12T21:05:15.205847Z"
            },
            "moderator": {
                "id": 7121342,
                "name": "Beaver",
                "display_name": "Beaver [she/her]",
                "avatar": "https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/5801e891-c371-459d-a262-84e476040930.png",
                "banned": false,
                "published": "2024-04-11T00:47:49.008680Z",
                "actor_id": "https://lemmy.ca/u/Beaver",
                "bio": "Human/Animal Rights Supporter \n\n🇵🇸🇺🇦🇹🇼🇬🇪🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🇲🇩\n\nWe Need Proportional Representation Badly\n",
                "local": false,
                "banner": "https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/fea3cd18-4600-49b1-a0b9-be394adeab83.jpeg",
                "deleted": false,
                "matrix_user_id": "@ralimbahere:matrix.org",
                "bot_account": false,
                "instance_id": 251
            },
            "community": {
                "id": 1309,
                "name": "vegan",
                "title": "vegan",
                "description": "Please also check out [vegantheoryclub.org](https://vegantheoryclub.org/) for a great set of well-run communities for vegan news, cooking, gardening, and art. It is not federated with LW, but it is a nice, cozy, all-in-one space for vegans.\n\n***\n\nWe ask that the you have an understanding on what veganism is before engaging in this community.\n\nIf you think you have been banned erroneously, please get in contact with one of the other mods for appeals.\n\nModerator reports may not federate properly and may delay moderator action. Please DM an active mod if an abusive comment remains after reporting it.\n\n***\n\n## Welcome\n\nWelcome to c/vegan@lemmy.world. Broadly, this community is a place to discuss veganism. Discussion on [intersectional](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality) topics related to the animal rights movement are also encouraged.\n\n## What is Veganism?\n\n> 'Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals ...'\n\n— abridged definition from [The Vegan Society](https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism)\n\n## Rules\n\n*The rules are subject to change, especially upon community feedback.*\n\n1. Discrimination is **not** tolerated. *This includes [speciesism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism)*.\n2. Topics not relating to veganism are subject to removal.\n3. Posts are to be as accessible as practicable:\n\t- pictures of text require alt-text;\n\t- paywalled articles must have an accessible non-paywalled link.\n4. Content warnings are required for triggering content.\n5. Bad-faith [carnist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnism) rhetoric & anti-veganism are not allowed, as this is not a space to debate the merits of veganism. Anyone is welcome here, however, and so good-faith efforts to ask questions about veganism may be given their own weekly stickied post in the future (see current stickied discussion).\n\t- before jumping into the community, we encourage you to read [examples of common fallacies here.](https://yourveganfallacyis.com/)\n\t- if you're asking questions about veganism, be mindful that the person on the other end is trying to be helpful by answering you and treat them with at least as much respect as they give you.\n6. Misinformation, particularly that which is dangerous or has malicious intent, is subject to removal.\n\n## Resources on Veganism\n\nA compilation of many vegan resources/sites in a Google spreadsheet:\n\n* [vegancheatsheet.org](https://vegancheatsheet.org/)\n\nHere are some documentaries that are recommended to watch if planning to or have recently become vegan:\n\n* [You Will Never Look at Your Life in the Same Way Again](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3u7hXpOm58)\n* [Dominion (2018)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko) (CW: gore, animal abuse)\n\n## Vegan Fediverse\n\nLemmy: [vegantheoryclub.org](https://vegantheoryclub.org/)\n\nMastodon: [veganism.social](https://veganism.social/)\n\n### Other Vegan Communities\n\n#### General Vegan Comms\n[!vegan@lemmy.ml](/c/vegan@lemmy.ml)\n\n[!vegan@hexbear.net](/c/vegan@hexbear.net)\n\n[!vegan@vegantheoryclub.org](/c/vegan@vegantheoryclub.org)\n\n[!vegan@slrpnk.net](/c/vegan@slrpnk.net)\n\n#### Circlejerk Comms\n[!vegancirclejerk@lemmy.ml](/c/vegancirclejerk@lemmy.ml)\n\n\n#### Vegan Food / Cooking\n[!homecooks@vegantheoryclub.org](/c/homecooks@vegantheoryclub.org) \n\n[!veganrecipes@sh.itjust.works](/c/veganrecipes@sh.itjust.works)\n\n[!recipes@vegantheoryclub.org](/c/recipes@vegantheoryclub.org)\n\n",
                "removed": false,
                "published": "2023-06-09T20:05:49.639993Z",
                "updated": "2024-09-03T01:09:32.860483Z",
                "deleted": false,
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                "actor_id": "https://lemmy.world/c/vegan",
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                "instance_id": 1
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            "banned_person": {
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                "name": "mushroomstormtrooper",
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                "local": true,
                "deleted": false,
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                "instance_id": 1
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        }
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[-] GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 2 months ago

I've been banned for breaking rule 5, which is weird since I've never posted in their community.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 69 points 2 months ago

Have you had impure thoughts about breaking rule 5?

[-] GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 months ago

No, but you can bet your bottom dollar I will when I go to bed tonight.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 42 points 2 months ago

I got banned for saying I didn't think the meme was funny.

I legitimately do not care about that, but I do care deeply about how funny Beaver's tantrum is, so I hope she keeps it up.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

It's funny that she thinks she's accomplishing anything here but all that's happening is that she's eroding her own credibility, especially with those angry memes targeting people who aren't Vegans and her beef with the Lemmy.world admins.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 20 points 2 months ago

She's eroding the credibility of the community she champions as well.

This isn't the first time a very loud minority ruined things for the rest of their collective.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago

Weird that criticism of Spam wouldn't be acceptable in a vegan community!

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[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 months ago
[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's also hilarious how they thought they could just ban an instance admin, and when it didn't work call it abuse.

If you consult the modlog, you can see a point during the hubris at which the mod in question was removed as a mod from the community. It is suspicious, and might suggest they were a mod deemed to be spreading misinformation.

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's an echo bunker. Banning anyone who doesn't whole throatedly support their beliefs is a feature of the community, not a bug. I am banned.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago

Now I'm wondering if all the other drama surrounding her was actually her fault...

Good job assassinating your own character, I guess, Beavs.

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Ah, this explains it! Saw I was banned from a community that I’d never posted in and evidently one of the mods is a wanker. Mystery solved :)

[-] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago

Am I missing something here? The vegan community is for vegans and people to ask questions about being vegan but is not for debating about any part of being vegan. That is their rule 5, which I see people break every day thinking it is ok to shit all over vegans there. If you don't want to hear about vegans then block the community.

[-] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 46 points 2 months ago

The problem is, in my opinion, that they post memes that are clerly provoking non-vegan people for discussion.

It's weird to jump under a "here are my 15 ways of cooking asparagus" post with anti-vegan content. But "look at these carnovorous clowns" memes are clearly offensive.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

but is not for debating about any part of being vegan

If that's the case, I want to know why perfectly innocuous comments are still removed. Seems like they operate on a whim.

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[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The mod isn't banning people for debating in the comments. A lot of people the mod is banning (myself included) are people who only downvoted posts. Considering that a large portion of the posts are blatantly antagonist things like this, it easy to see why they're getting downvoted. If you're going to insult 90% of the users on an instance, then you're going to get downvoted.

The mod could have made the community private so they could insult people without consequences, but instead, they decided to remain public while banning anyone who downvotes their insults. They want to continue to antagonize the instance while removing the instance'a ability to respond. They want to artificially lower the number of downvotes they get, so it doesn't look like their antagonistic bullshit is as unpopular as it is.

Everyone could block the community, and if you choose to do that, that's a reasonable response, but it shouldn't be the only response. We should be able to express our opinion about the content in our feeds, even if it's just downvoting it. Why should an entire instance be expected to hide from one abusive community?

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

I think what you are missing is that they’re banning people for breaking Rule 5 that haven’t broken Rule 5.

Nobody is taking issue with them banning people that broke Rule 5.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 months ago

This good advice. Everyone should block the community.

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