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[-] Susaga@ttrpg.network 68 points 1 year ago

I don't know for certain if he deserves it or not, but this guy will always be known as the guy accused of using a buttplug to cheat at chess. There's no escaping it at this point.

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

He should go for a brand deal

[-] gothicdecadence@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago
[-] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

The next one up is the bishop.

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

wait until the knight comes out

[-] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

yes, also horse sized.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I honestly feel bad for him. He's always gonna be associated with this meme. I don't blame Magnus for not wanting to play with a known former cheater, but there's a solid chance that Niemann's win against him was legitimate.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Niemann is a known cheater. He cheated tons of times. Whether he cheated against Magnus or not (I believe he did, but Magnus did make some mistakes in that game as well) doesn't change how I feel about the accusations.

Niemann earned the reputation of a cheater... by cheating... a lot. I don't care if he was 16 during the confirmed incidents of cheating. That's well old enough to understand what's happening. And he's really not that much older now. It wasn't that long ago. He should live with the consequences of his actions.

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago
[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

He would have gone out happier than he is now.

[-] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago

I did too! Major whiplash

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

I don't think using sex toys in a relationship is cheating tbh.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 26 points 1 year ago

Depends who’s controlling it.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

NSA: giggles from their desk as they tunnel into lovense and control this guys toy and ruin his entire career

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Open communication is key.

If my partner told me upfront that they want to use a vibrator, I'd personally be fine with that. But if they did it secretly, it would call into question our entire history. A good relationship is built on trust and an honest representation of each person's Elo rating.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Masturbation can't be secret?

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

Everybody trains with AI. No need to hide it, but also no need to expect disclosure.

[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They should make chess piece shaped butt plugs. Some pieces are just perfect like the bishop.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The Peasant Plug.

[-] Aggravationstation@lemmy.film 35 points 1 year ago

I read denies as dies for some reason. Very different story

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago
[-] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 14 points 1 year ago

How does that even work???

[-] naonintendois@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago

My guess would be it buzzes Morse code on what moves to play.

[-] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 10 points 1 year ago

I read another article that said a lot of cheaters do consult software that will suggest good moves. I’m just wondering how you get a sex toy to transmit the data about all the pieces on the board and request it back. Is he squeezing a butt plug with his anus in Morse code with the positions of every piece? Is there a network attached device connected to pick up the signal and send a request to an API and return the Morse code to his butthole? If he can do all that, IMO that’s even more impressive than being an elite chess player

[-] naonintendois@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

You're missing the more obvious possibility. Someone else is recording the game, inputting the moves, and sending the commands to vibrate. Player only needs to interpret.

[-] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is why many tournaments are broadcast with a delay. I mean not just for buttplugs, but an earpiece or any other way of getting third-party assistance.

[-] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Someone gave it a try. https://youtu.be/5uDM3fPeNFM

It's SFW, don't worry.

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[-] wols@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's no need for something that complex.
Someone with access to a chess engine watches the game and inputs the moves into the engine as they're played. If there's a critical move (only 1 or very few of the options are winning/don't throw the game) they send a simple signal to let him know. That can be enough to give you an advantage at that level. If you really want, you could send a number between 1 and 6 to represent which piece the engine prefers to move, but it's likely not necessary.

That said, all the evidence he actually did anything like that is at best circumstantial (mostly statistical evidence supposedly showing how unlikely his performance was given his past performance and rating at the time, as well as known instances of past cheating by him - though the only confirmed ones were several years ago when he was still a kid and online rather than in person).

[-] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago
[-] jBlight@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Holy shit, this was a real thing?! So that's where It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia got the idea!

[-] wolfkin@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@Decoy321 @TheJims It was definitely a real controversy for months a while back. He won and his opponent iirc accused him of having a vib to help him cheat.

General concensus is that it's unlikely. The sheet complexity of communicating movements via vib patterns alone makes it a stretch.

Plus... ya know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCDc4I0cSQ

[-] malloc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Looking back at this. This whole thing was a wild ride. Magnus took being a sore loser to another level.

Grade A asshole

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago

Known cheater plays a perfect game as black against a world champion who has never lost as white in decades. Grade A asshole, yep.

https://youtu.be/5uDM3fPeNFM?si=VASdcNJQwOwLFEMa

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Perfect is a bit of a stretch. There was a tiny chance of Niemann winning that match, but smarter folk than I have analyzed the game and said that it was consistent with legitimate play

[-] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If your dumb enough to believe the reddit meme about a vibrating butt plug being how he cheated, seriously reconsider your life

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

Reddit meme? You mean the explicit statement/accusation by Magnus Carlson himself on Twitter, and the youtube video I linked that shows exactly how its possible with little effort?

The good people of the internet can't do all the reading and video watching for you - Most of have lives, but can still be bothered to look into whether we should open our mouths with some dismissive bullshit. What's your excuse?

[-] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Help is out there, you just have to reach out.

Maybe consider something like this?

Getting help can be hard, but your stronger than you think, I know you can do it!

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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

"I was using it purely for anal pleasure, it was completely unrelated to the chess match at-hand."

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 year ago

I lost all respect I had for Magnus Carlsen when he couldnt just accept his loss akd instead sent his hate brigade against Niemann

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

First of all, all he did was refuse to play the guy. He then said he can't talk about it or else it'll mean legal trouble. Second of all, there has been an investigation into Nieman that has shown he is a cheater in online play. He also admitted to cheating previously.

So no, this isn't "Magnus lost and couldn't accept it". It is "known cheater loses the entire tournament and gets downright bullied, till they reach the world champion, where they play a perfect game".

[-] sock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

at this point if people dont know the actual story from both sides its safe to say theyre just trying to follow an edgy bandwagon so idk if your logic is gonna help them

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