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I thought the zoomed detail was a cheese grater.
I'll buy an electric car when
A) it won't spy on me and
B) I won't have to sign away my soul and first born to whatever car company I'm buying from
I hate to break it to you, but nowadays neither of those are exclusive to electric cars. Just sounds like you might never be buying a new car again.
It’s still easy to disconnect the cellular antenna if you’re fine with losing features like self driving and map updates.
Buy one from China, The only people spying on you then will have a miniscule impact on you, ever.
They include climates in the study but only hot climates and temperate climates. Temperate climates perform the best of course, but that’s expected given the narrower temperature ranges.
I would like to see studies for cold climates. Here in Canada we have freezing temperatures for about half the year and sweltering temperatures for a quarter. The shoulder seasons bring lots of rain and temperature fluctuations. This mix of always changing temperatures and humidity (along with all the salt used to de-ice roads) is absolute havoc for ICE cars. It tends to rust them out a decades before the engines give out.
On the other hand, freezing temperatures are brutal on batteries (I know this from how my phone responds to the cold). I do know that a freezing cold battery needs a ton of extra energy to heat up before it can even begin charging. Having an EV in Canada without an indoor parking space for it is not a great experience.
Iirc most modern EVs have passive climate control for the battery, even when the car is "off". So for cold weather that would be trace heaters or equivalent
I just got back from Quebec and vas surprised to see a ton of electric cars- like California levels of full electric cars on the road. I have to assume that most of them have made it through the winter alright, otherwise we'd be hearing about it. They do test these things in very cold climates before they sell them.
MG started offering a lifetime warranty for the battery and drivetrains in Thailand.
It confirms what the article is saying, manufacturers know with their experience that the rest of the car will break before the battery or the motor does.
How long does MG consider to be a lifetime? I'm daily driving a 32 year old car.
Edit: ~~Ok, I looked it up. It's an unlimited-mile warranty for the first 12 months. After that, it lasts up to 80,000 miles or 7 years, whichever comes first. This is less than the battery warranty for many other brands. This kind of advertising should be illegal, but they placed "lifetime" in quotes, so I guess everyone's cool with it.~~ Actually, it looks like that might be the old warranty, effective in 2019. I'm having trouble finding the actual terms for the new warranty, but I wanted to correct myself first.
MG is still making cars? I haven't seen anything from them in decades!
They're fairly popular in the UK
I loved the B and the Midget that they made in, I think the 70's. Might have been 60's. My mom's friend had both when I was a kid.
It was bought out by a Chinese company from what I'd heard.
“Actually the battery will probably lose the exact amount every year, and nothing will ever go wrong with any parts of it, and also they’ll also break the rest of the car at the same rate as a gas car, which is 20 years, which we’re going to call 15 years. Which means in 12 years the car will be useless, but the battery will still be at 80%. MATHS.”
Fucking. What.
I had to dig deep to find this:
an average EV battery degrades at 1.8% per year, it will still have over 80% state of health after 12 years, generally beyond the usual life of a fleet vehicle.
You still have to assume they're using average fleet vehicles use as their comparison, but at the same time also that they're using 80% battery as comparable.
Yeah just the article goes from saying cars last 20 years to you’ll probably buy a new one in 15 to quoting this. Was a wild ride.
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I've had my current ICE vehicle for 15 years and it hasn't given me any problems yet. With any luck I can get another ten years out of it. Im not sold on the reliability of EVs yet, but hopefully by the time my vehicle dies reliability won't be an issue any longer.
I've had my ev 5 years. I've had the tires changed and had the windshield replaced because it got a chip in it.
There are barely any moving parts to make the thing go. No waste heat or slamming around of pistons to worry about. At one point I quite literally forgot cars need maintenance because with an EV, it's just not a thing (largely).
The idea that ICE vehicles are even on the same planet as EVs in terms of reliability and maintenance is utterly laughable. It's very very very simple. Fewer moving parts, no waste heat to manage, no pumps or multiple fluid systems, so no seals and gaskets.
The batteries in most EV’s need some kind of passive or active cooling. Some cars are using liquid cooling.
Tesla, BMW i-3 and i-8, Chevy Volt, Ford Focus, Jaguar i-Pace, and LG Chem’s lithium-ion batteries all use some form of liquid cooling system. Since electric vehicles are still a relatively new technology, there have been problems maintaining temperature range and uniformity in extreme temperatures even when using a liquid cooling system.
That’s not a reason to not get an EV but they all have some form of waste heat and some have fluid systems, pumps, gaskets, and seals. They just have less of all of it.
That and suspension components still need to be greased. Plus electric cars tend to be a little heavier, often time with large wheels, meaning more wear and tear.
Yeah and that's a rounding error compared to the maintenance ICE cars need
Yeah well. Ain't done shit in 5 years. Like not one iota of shit.
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