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[-] anteaters@feddit.de 108 points 1 year ago

fandom.com has always been a pile of barely usable garbage. More projects should follow and self host a wiki again.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 74 points 1 year ago

a core issue for moving wikis is that Fandom refuses to delete the old wiki so you 1) have to fight an SEO war against them; and 2) have to contend with directing everyone to the right place or else you have two competing wikis (one of which will gradually lapse out of date). it's very irritating.

[-] silverdk@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

The Path of Emilie community made an extension to remove fandom from Google results and automatically link to the real wiki. Hopefully more communities make something similar.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

How can one follow on that path of Emilie?

[-] peter@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I believe that extension is mentioned in the OP

[-] z3n0x@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

wait. they have something in their Terms of Service that prevents you from deleting stuff you posted? That sounds illegal.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

i'm pretty sure this is because of two things: 1) they actually host the wikis and the administrators of them simply steward them; and 2) everything is licensed under CC-BY-SA anyways, so you don't retain the right to revoke things you contribute or the right to move the wiki.

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

A gdpr request on content you create but do not own just anonymizes the references to who created and edited the articles you contributed to

[-] salarua@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

ugh yeah. especially the SEO war thing, the new website doesn't even register on DuckDuckGo yet. at least there's this extension called Indie Wiki Buddy which will hide Fandom results from search engines and redirect you to an independent wiki if you end up on Fandom anyway

[-] fwygon@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Hmm. Is there something against linking external wikis on every article you create?

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they'll revert that and ban you for "vandalism" (i assume they have automated sensors for checking this), and/or turn your wiki over to new administrators.

[-] frog@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

The only thing more rage-inducing than getting stuck in a game and needing to Google the information I need... is finding that information on a Fandom Wiki composed of 90% ads and 10% useful content. Especially since I'm usually searching for that information on my phone, due to not all games handling Alt+Tab particularly well, and Fandom is somehow even worse on a phone. I have genuinely had moments where I've just closed a game and stopped playing because the information I need isn't in the game but has to be found on a Fandom Wiki.

SEO wars only go so far when the user experience on Fandom is so awful that plenty of players would rather scroll down to use the #2 entry in the search results if it means not having to click a Fandom link. They'd only need a few occasions when the #2 entry is a better experience than using Fandom, and they'll start using the independent Wiki purposefully.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

what if someone pushes thousands of edits with random AI generated garbage from thousands of accounts?

[-] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fandom is 95% popups at this point.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Use an adblocker (uBlock Origin)

[-] frog@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Even with uBlock Origin installed, I find Fandom to have a very high proportion of ads. For a while I tried blocking them individually through uBlock's element zapper, but that proved a very short term solution. Too often, it worked only on that page and if I went to another entry on the same wiki, it would be loaded down with ads again. I gave up trying. uBlock is really good with ads on most sites, but Fandom has so many that uBlock can't get rid of them all.

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Really? I don't see any ads at all on Fandom with ublock. Perhaps check if it's setup right.

[-] frog@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It varies between browsers. On my phone (which is how I use Fandom most often - finding out information that ought to be in a game I'm currently playing), I've tried several different adblockers and none of them effectively de-ads Fandom. On desktop, Firefox with ublock is generally okay, but Chrome with ublock always has a couple of ads that try to sneak through.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago
[-] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Oh indeed! But websites should still be borderline functional even without adblock.

I used fandom on my kid's new tablet (we were looking up video game stuff) and it was unusable, no exaggeration.

[-] johntash@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago

It looks pretty bad even with an adblocker on now too

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] chloyster@beehaw.org 37 points 1 year ago

Oh wow it's so much better. Really hope more wikis follow suit

[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 17 points 1 year ago

Oh wow, good for them. Had a quick look and it looks like a really nice import of their old stuff.

Hopefully Fandom doesn't crush them with their seo monopoly stuff.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

Saw this useful browser extension linked on that page, redirects you away from fandom and hides those results in search: https://getindie.wiki/

[-] toAIC@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago

Warframe next plz ๐Ÿ™

[-] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

This might be going back a while, I haven't played or looked anything up in along time, but back in the early days was the minecraft wiki not already its own site. At what point did they move to fandom? It's good they're moving, but why did they ever go there in the first place?

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

They were originally on Gamepedia, which got bought out by Fandom.

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