Went on All today and saw many posts celebrating Sen. Feindtein's recent passing. Why is she so hated on the left? (midwest.social)

submitted 11 months ago by Nemo@midwest.social to c/outoftheloop@lemmy.world

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I'm not from California, so I don't know much about her; but this genuinely surprised me, especially how vicious and vitriolic the comments were. What's going on there?

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[-] BURN@lemmy.world 173 points 11 months ago

Since you’re getting troll comments from right wingers I’ll try to give an actual answer

Feinstein was no longer mentally fit to serve in office. She was essentially the pre-cursor to a weekend at Bernie’s setup. She was not cognitively present enough to vote on legislation or even hold a conversation.

People are glad she passed because it means her seat is open to someone who can actually work on policy and benefit their constituents.

Liberals are not exactly a fan of letting the elderly die in office after the RBG situation that ended up with a stacked court when she had the option to retire under Obama.

Also Lemmy has definitely been having more right wing trolls recently and it’s making me want to use the platform less.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

She was also more of a neoliberal centrist, and had some moments that were, at best, terrible optics. She condescendingly admonished some kids asking her about her stance on climate change. As mayor of San Francisco, she defended flying the Confederate Flag as part of a monument to American Historical Flags. Then when a black man climbed the pole in a Union uniform to tear it down, she replaced it the next day. So he climbed the pole the next day and took it down again, and he was arrested. She put it back up the third day and posted guards to keep it up. She later "evolved" on the issue of flying the Confederate flag.

As mayor, she was violently anti-punk music, and was considered far more conservative than her predecessor. She became mayor after her predecessor was assassinated by political rival and former police officer, who also killed Harvey Milk in the same shopting. The assassin was convicted of voluntary manslaughter and served 5 years in prison. Her administration was notably friendlier to police and real estate development.

Did I mention she made millions of dollars in real estate and investments? After the 2022 death of her third husband, her net worth was estimated at around $90 million, making her one of the top 5 or so wealthiest Senators. I say "or so" because it's really hard to pin down how much Senators have or what they earn, and there are alarmingly few regulations regarding disclosures of investments in the Senate. Feinstein sat on the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration, and the Senate Committee on Appropriations.

In 2013, she blamed the Sandy Hook shootings on violent video games.

And when it became obvious that she was no longer in control of her mental faculties, she refused to step down.

[-] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Unlike Reddit, you can shit on those trolls. Go shit on them, my child. Be like the bamboo: bend and whip them to pain.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

bend and whip them to pain.

I think most of them are into that judging by their AOC memes.

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[-] Poayjay@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago

She isn’t hated by the far left any more than any other neo-lib.

She’s hated because she needed to retire decades ago. Senate Judiciary confirmations have completely stalled because she hasn’t been healthy enough to attend hearings. Trump stacked federal judgeships with unqualified partisan hacks and democrats have been unable to respond. The senate needs her vote to maintain their majority, and her health issues effectively loses the democrats majority. She is clearly senile and confused at all of her recent public appearances.

[-] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 31 points 11 months ago

They literally wheeled her out into Congress like two weeks ago. It was friggin sad. Do these people take a blood sacrifice to stay in office until they're dead or something?

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Partly because of her voting record/neoliberal bullshit, and partly because she was senile and should've retired. There might've been other issues on top of those two things, but as far as I'm aware, those were the big ones.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 months ago

I think "she was senile and should've retired" is being profoundly gentle. She should have retired decades ago, and she should have spent her most recent term in hospice. She's an even more potent symbol than Mitch McConnell of how pathetically, worthlessly, disgustingly, pointlessly geriatric our government is.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

Presumably she kept getting re-elected every 6 years, no? I know that's not a good enough reason for her to justify running, but what's a democratic solution that isn't also ageist?

If someone has freak genes, or sufficiently advanced technology to remain in perfect health physical and mentally at (ex.) 150 years old, we wouldn't want laws that say, "sorry, people past 80 are generally senile, so you're not allowed to run".

I feel like if the people don't want a 90yo senator, then they shouldn't elect an 85yo candidate, and we can't do much better than that. This is also why we have so many redundant representatives, one bad one shouldn't be capable of sinking the whole ship.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

we wouldn’t want laws that say, “sorry, people past 80 are generally senile, so you’re not allowed to run”.

I do. We have laws that say "Sorry, people under are usually stupid, so you're not allowed to run" Not everyone under the age should be denied the right to run/vote, but we decide as a society when someone has lived enough to make choices. Why is it so hard to do the same for an upper age?

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

The solution is the dissolution of the private corporations deciding how the main (read: only) two parties in our country operate. Dianne only won because she was the Democratic candidate, and she got that because the DNC made it so. If there were more rigorous competition, I'm quite sure she would've been replaced a long time ago.

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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

"What if fictional technology" isn't a particularly compelling argument in my book.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 37 points 11 months ago

The time she flew a Confederate treason flag outside the SF mayors office to court racist Democrats is part of it. Even had she done nothing else wrong that's enough for me to search every corner of hell when I get there, find her and piss on her.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 months ago

She essentially embodied the suppression of leftist and progressive movements in the Democratic Party. That is why a lot of leftist and progressive people may not be hurting over the news.