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Cooking with any plastic is a dubious enterprise, because heat encourages potentially harmful plastic compounds to migrate out of the polymers and potentially into the food. But, as Andrew Turner, a biochemist at the University of Plymouth recently told me, black plastic is particularly crucial to avoid.

In 2018, Turner published one of the earliest papers positing that black plastic products were likely regularly being made from recycled electronic waste. The clue was the plastic’s concerning levels of flame retardants. In some cases, the mix of chemicals matched the profile of those commonly found in computer and television housing, many of which are treated with flame retardants to prevent them from catching fire.

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Yay for being overly cautious after the BPA thing and deciding to avoid plastic as much as possible and strictly avoiding it when dealing with high heat.

Though I still wonder about the chemicals used to treat/seal wooden utensils.

It is kinda funny coming back full circle, because as a kid I thought the wooden spoons we had were relics of the past and preferred the smooth plastic ones.

Now I prefer the wooden ones, stains, cracks, and all. Just limit how long you soak them for when doing dishes.

On that note, I've found that most dishes only need to soak for a minute or less before they are easier to clean. And if you rinse them before anything dries, you probably won't even need to soak at all.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

You can apply food-grade mineral oil aka cutting board oil to your wooden implements and that will help keep them from drying out and cracking. Also works on cutting boards, of course.

[-] padge@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

That's a thing? Definitely going to look into this

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Yep! I use mineral oil on my kuksa too, works great and is inexpensive. Just make sure you use food grade.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Just be sure to sanitize all cutting boards with a solution of a tablespoon of bleach in a gallon of water for several minutes.

[-] Defectus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I've used wooden cutting boards for about 30 years now. Never thought about that. But it makes sense with all the nooks and crannies in wood. I only wash mine in warm water and some detergent. Don't know if it's true, but I heard that wood has anti bacterial properties. With that being said, I never use raw meat on a wooden board.

In a related note, I saw that in a documentary about some monks in the US that made cheese. Traditionally they always had made it in large wooden tubs. Then they were forced to use stainless tubs because of health codes. After switching every attempt failed because every batch spoiled, probably because there was a good bacterial culture in the wood that helped the batch propagate the right culture, keeping the bad bacteria in check.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Meh. Wooden boards are self-sanitizing. I'll just risk it most days.

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[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

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[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 days ago

I always wonder if these sorts of dire warnings are real or just a marketing ploy.

[-] isles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Big Wood And Metal Utensil Lobby is going hard, for sure

[-] simon@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 days ago

I only use wooden spoons, spatulas and cutting boards myself. And fire retardants are obviously damaging to health, so throwing out black plastic is a good idea. But I don't think the article gives any good reason to avoid plastic in general. "Potentially harmful plastic compounds" sounds a lot like "compounds with zero evidence of being dangerous but they sound scary". Happy to be proven wrong though.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 97 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

flame removedants

facepalm. Censorship absurdity.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

lol, that's lemmy.ml for you

Looks fine from sh.itjust.works

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago

That is your instance doing a shitty job of filtering.

[-] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago

Whaaaaat the fuck?

I had no fucking idea of this. I've been seen "removed" used more and more on the last months and I just thought people speak weird online nowadays.

My lemmy.lm instance has been censoring content that I see without me knowing it?

Fuck this shit, I'm going to look for another instance right now. One that treats me like an adult who wants to see what other people type so I can decide MYSELF if someone is an asshole for using certain language

[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

Yeah it’s stupid

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I like Lemm.ee because Sunaurus is a G and treats the users like adults capable of making their own decisions.

[-] RandomGen1@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

This is the way that Lemmy as a whole has filtered words implemented, just not every instance filters the same words (or at all in some cases?)

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

No, it is not how Lemmy as a whole has filtered words or it would be filtered everywhere.

[-] RandomGen1@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

It is the method by which it is filtered, but not the list by which it's filtered

[-] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago

That's probably your instance. It shows up normally for me.

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[-] andyburke@fedia.io 73 points 1 week ago

Plastic and food shouldn't mix.

We fucked up real bad. Gonna be a long road to fix this shit.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Sous vide has entered the chat.. with keurig knocking on the door

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[-] bizarroland@fedia.io 35 points 1 week ago

Also, if you have a cast iron pan that is extremely rusted, get a brass bristle drill attachment and blast all the rust off with it.

After you have finished that and cleaned it, season it like the other poster mentioned and it will be as smooth as almost any Teflon you've ever used.

[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Geez, I hope people aren’t out there using rusted cast iron. That’s beyond ignorant.

[-] bizarroland@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago

I have found cast iron pans in the trash that were trashed because they were Rusty. Cleaning them, de-rusting them, and reseasoning them was enough to put them back into service and they are some of my favorite cast iron.

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[-] cabbage@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do yourself a favour and start using proper cast iron or stainless steel frying pans as well. You gotta learn how to use them, but it's a whole different level. I'm never going back to non-stick.

To get started with a new pan:

  1. Pour a bit of oil in it
  2. Dry it ALL up with a paper towel
  3. Heat up to high temperature, let cool.
  4. Repeat three times or so. This creates a coating of hardened oil.

~~Never, ever, wash with soap. If you do by accident, repeat the above process to coat the pan again.~~ (just don't scrub too violently with soap - I'm being outdated with my advice here)

When cooking:

  1. Heat up pan
  2. Add oil
  3. Add things into pan only when hot
  4. Use water or wine to deglaze when things get a little stuck. That's where you get deliciousness from - it's a feature, not a bug.

I use an old cast iron that's a bit rugged in the bottom for pancakes. It's the most amazing thing ever. I found it in the trash one day. The cast iron allows me to use a steel spatula when it needs to be thin, otherwise I use wood.

[-] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

You can wash these pans with soap, you just shouldn’t abrade them. Soap isn’t going to remove the molecular bonding unless you’re scrubbing the hell out of it.

Also, Teflon’s a no go but I was under the impression ceramic is ok. Is anything wrong with that coating for cooking?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ceramic loses its' non-stick properties quite fast, cause the coating gets micro-cracked.

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