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[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 3 points 26 minutes ago

You had me at white man

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

Another one of her messaging issues was that she has a vagina.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 minutes ago

I'm fairly certain that a transwoman would have done even worse in polls. It does make me wonder how a transman would fare, though.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

She did try her darnedest too, though.

[-] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

I understand the poster may be very emotional because of the election. Yet, This strikes me as incredibly reductive.

I think she lost because, she represents the continuation of the current administration. People want to break from the status quo, even if that means harming society to do it.

The dems need a left wing populist, asap.

[-] Halosheep@lemm.ee 1 points 5 minutes ago

I keep hearing this 'status quo' excuse but no one ever explains what the fuck that's supposed to even mean.

Too little too late. If the GOP sees a left wing populist emerge they will use the all three branches of government to crush them and entrenched themselves further.

This was checkmate friends. Violent revolution is the only option left. It's probably going to take 20-40 years before everyone gets there but luckily for us climate change will have already taken root and we just get to burn.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

A populist isn't gonna save you from the toxicity of your society and the stupidity of your people. You guys deserve what you get

[-] doublehelix@lemmy.cafe 44 points 15 hours ago

When she sat down on The View and said she wouldn't change a thing compared to Biden that was a messaging problem. People can't afford rent and grocery inflation is out of control and she thinks everything is fine and dandy? I voted for her but I'm kind of sick of being a perpetual afterthought who has been voting for the lesser of two evils for over 20 years. They dumped the working class in favor of chasing an imaginary pool of moderates and this is the result. Give us someone we can be passionate about and, even if they're lying, at least pretend to tell us what we want to hear.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 56 points 18 hours ago

Republicans have a vision. Democrats have a list of policy proposals. Average people can grok the vision but since they read at a 6th grade level they don't grok the policy proposals.

Democrats need to stop acting like nerds if they want more people to like them.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There was an era where the nerds placed up a facade to give the illusion of meritocracy and measured governance. Unfortunately that just drove a wedge between people and the "ruling class." When it came out that bill was getting blowies in the oval office people's brains broke and the facade was forever tarnished. Today, democrats still hide behind it and pretend like we don't know they piss and shit like everyone else. The Republicans decided to erect a monument to trump their lord and savior, the only thing keeping them from being a foot note in the history books.

We need to look to our founders. Flawed in every way possible they did have one idea that we should still cherish. They believed in an america they could make by their own hands. They did, it sucked, it was also amazing somehow. We should be like them but be just as kind to our future as we are to the present.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago

But I was told it was just that our policy proposals weren't left enough?

Unironically, you're right. Most voters don't vote based on any kind of coherent ideology. They vote on feels.

God help us all.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago

If the policy proposals were far left enough they'd start to look a helluva lot more like a vision.

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[-] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 24 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I want a country where everyone pays less for healthcare. If it can be done for seniors, why not everyone else?

I want a country where everyone's private medical decisions remain between them and their doctor, without being cleared by your local, state, or federal representative or by a judge.

I want a country where everyone who works, pays taxes, and does not commit violent crime or property theft can stay and keep working without having to look over their shoulder.

I want a country where if you work full time, you can afford your rent/mortgage, put food on the table, start a family, and still be able to retire.

There's a vision. Apparently all of these things have become radically progressive leftist positions and are attacked as such by the media and conservatives alike.

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[-] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

How the fuck do democrats win here then? After the Harris/Dump debate i feel like there was a lot of conjecture about how Harris didnt talk about policy enough. How do you get away with talking about policy but not "sounding like a nerd" to uneducated voters? See I think this is more about the average voter not being educated enough to understand the issues and the policies potential nominees have pertaining to them, or how their lives would be affected depending who/what they vote for.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 14 points 16 hours ago

Start offering policies that help average people. Run on medicare for all. Run on forcing pharmaceutical companies lowering drug prices. Run on building new factories to create solar panels, geothermal equipment, and wind turbines. Run on creating affordable housing and ending corporate landlords. Run on campaign finance reform with a promise of ending political ads that everyone hates.

The Democrats problem is tha they won't do any of that because their donors dont want it. But as long as the DNC values their donorsore than their voters, they will continue to lose elections.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

The Democrats problem is tha they won’t do any of that because their donors dont want it. But as long as the DNC values their donorsore than their voters, they will continue to lose elections.

The entire American political system we have is dependent on big money donors since citizens united. America has been an oligarchy since at least the early 2000s. You will not get a Democratic party with policies that vary wildly from what industrial heads and CEOs want simply by voting (or not) every 2-4 years. And even small deviations from what they want aren't tolerated by many of the oligarchs (e.g. Elon Musk).

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago

How about do basic stuff that people understand ...

... like tax the hell out of billionaires and use the money on people in the country.

... stop financing overseas wars and use that free money on people in the country

.... then just keep repeating and blasting everyone that all the money the government is collecting from rich idiots and not spending on war is being spent on everyone ...... rinse, repeat 10,000 times.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Yep. And there's precedent for this. (Even though with this Supreme Court precedent counts for jack shit...)

Every time Bernie got asked a question he'd turn it around to mentioning the top 1% and how they're fucking us over. And people liked him for it. I had MAGA hat folks tell me they liked him because of it back in 2016.

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[-] voldage@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

She didn't? I believe that's exactly what she came across as when she said she wouldn't do anything different if she were to call the shots instead of Biden and also reminded everyone she signed off on most of his decisions. Sure, she lost votes because of sexism as well, but instead of fresh air she chose to bring stale coffin smell to the fart battle and lost to the stink Trump was all too happy to discharge. And that coffin did smell of a old white dude, let me tell you.

That being said, for such a gigantic loss against someone as obnoxious as Trump, there had to be a lot of factors in play. Sexism and stagnation of the party being just a tip of the iceberg.

[-] cybermass@lemmy.ca 30 points 18 hours ago

The problem is the Democrats are scared to push back hard, they try to move to the right to capture moderate voters, and then lose 10x as many voters to the left who don't care enough to vote because the Democrats are trying to make concessions with absolute lunatics.

The DNC seems like it just doesn't have a spine. Doesn't matter now, it's all fucked and it's too late.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Harris is missing 10 million votes that Biden got in 2020. It looks like many of those 10 million were suburban men who didn't vote Trump, just sat on the couch. misogyny is a viable explanation for this because otherwise you'll have to explain why Biden set the left on fire, or why Biden was so inspirational to men.

She lost the scrote vote, simple as that.

[-] niucllos@lemm.ee 12 points 17 hours ago

Some of it is 100% misogyny, I think some of it is also that 4 years ago the country was literally on fire in a lot of places and Trump was obviously to blame for a lot of it, so it didn't matter so much to apathetic voters if Biden's messaging was weak. Kamala may have won then too, though misogyny would have made it closer. Now the country is much more stable but still not great, but Democrats are in charge and therefore obviously to blame, so people who largely haven't been affected negatively by the Republicans (e.g. men, especially non-desperately-poor white men), are apathetic again

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[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The main problem is that Democrats do not have a propaganda machine like the Republicans do. It does not matter what the message is if it constantly gets drowned out by the unceasing flood of propaganda coming from the right.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 11 hours ago

The right isn't the problem. Our problem is a lack of a left. The Tea Party managed to resuscitate the GOP about 4 terms ago. We need a Guillotine Party to drag the Democrats away from corporate American and back to the electorate.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

The Tea Party was an astro turf campaign created by the propaganda machine I spoke off. It was funded and promoted by the Koch billionaires.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

It was funded and promoted by ~~the Koch billionaires.~~ the second estate.

FTFY. Reduced it to a previously solved problem.

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